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Old 02-24-2008, 04:19 PM   #1
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ATTENTION NEW RULZ Read and observe.

ADVrider is all about choices.

We all make them and our strength has been that we allowed everyone as much latitude as possible.

This is truly a double edged sword in that there will always be those who push the limits of the written rulz. For many, many years the one major guideline in GSpot was civility. As long as the discourse was kept civil, folks could banter back and forth to their hearts content.

With our ‘success’ we have added many new participants who have no experience with our traditional rough and tumble ways. These new folks expectations are at odds with the ‘old timers’ way of doing things. This has lead us to our current ‘problem’.

You see, the technical forums we have here are about helping any and all who have questions or problems. In days of old, helping would ofttimes include some degree of ‘gentle’ ribbing, which is where the civility rule came from. Getting ribbed was a form of endearment. It also helped to identify those who 'got it' from those who didn't.

Of course there are those who have learned just where the limits of what is an ‘acceptable’ post and they are quite expert at staying just this side of that line. Unfortunately in the long term and when this becomes the 'norm' of the content of their posts, this form of behavior has undesirable consequences. One of these is seen as a form of negativity that permeates the forum. Another consequence is, others figure that this form of behavior is acceptable because it doesn’t ‘break the rulz’.

So what is my point in all of this? We the Mods are having to take steps to deal with this. After banging our collective heads together we have devised a guideline that can be applied to any situation. For some, as long as the words of the rulz were being followed, then what was posted was ‘OK’. But the intent behind the rulz was being ignored. This type of arrogance simply can’t cut it any more.

Some of you may be familiar with being banned or being miserablized, well, soon you can be insufferablized.

In short we will exclude from GSpot (or any other forum) those, who after being suitably warned, continue to post in a manner that violates the intent of civility. Ok so what does ‘exclude’ really mean? It means you’ll be able to read any thread in the forum but will not be able to participate, IN ANY WAY.

The selection of who will be insufferablized will be entirely up to the mods.
Whining after the fact usually just cements the decision in place (remember the rule “ALL Mod decisions are final, don't whine about it”), which is found here
http://www.advrider.com/forums/announcement.php?f=3

which we suggest EVERYONE read…

All thanks to those few who habitually have to push buttons to the detriment of the many who have to live with the consequences.

JJ & GB
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