MotoGP:Gran Premio bwin de España (Jereth Spoilers)

mike54 · May 3, 2013

Skowinski said: ↑

Was wondering about the new Ducati also. What changes have they made to the bike? I haven't heard anything...
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Being able to qickly adjust frame flex from what I understand.

Edit: I can see we're all reading the same propaganda.

Kropotkin · May 3, 2013

swimmer said: ↑

I think Dovi said Pirro was running new frame and engine management. But really, I am not sure how much truthful details about what they are testing will be given out.
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Excuse the crappy phone photos:

Hayden's GP13:

Pirro's Lab bike:

Note the different frame. Here's a link to the full size version of that photo

cogitate · May 3, 2013

The angle of the perpendicular to the ground spar makes the frame look like something from Honda or Yamaha.

DC2wheels · May 3, 2013

So Dovi and Nicky are riding the new bike on Monday?

Kropotkin · May 3, 2013

DC2wheels said: ↑

So Dovi and Nicky are riding the new bike on Monday?
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Yes, if Nicky's hand holds up.

TTTom · May 3, 2013

Kropotkin said: ↑

Excuse the crappy phone photos:

Hayden's GP13:

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No need to apologize... it's the bike that sucks, not the camera.

swimmer · May 3, 2013

Please beat me over the head for going off topic/ranting but those pictures illustrate one mistake every damn motorcycle manufacture makes (that I am aware of) in that they all put their clip ons on at some ridiculous back swept and downward angle and many cant be adjusted when nearly all racers run them much flatter and much straighter. If they are trying to make repli-racers at least get that part right and save everyone the hassle/expense having to get new bars.

mdubya · May 3, 2013

DC2wheels said: ↑

But what's up with Bradl? 1.5 sec back in 14th

Given the bike he has, expectations are for him to be further up there, no?
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Bradl had a pretty big get off in FP2. Not sure if he is banged up, but the crash would explain his low rank in FP2.

Combined times from FP1 and FP2 look a bit different from FP2 alone.

Mr Head · May 3, 2013

From the look of him in the garage after he's OK.

mdubya said: ↑

Bradl had a pretty big get off in FP2. Not sure if he is banged up, but the crash would explain his low rank in FP2.

Combined times from FP1 and FP2 look a bit different from FP2 alone.
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Mr Head · May 3, 2013

oser

http://www.motomatters.com/

mike54 said: ↑

Being able to qickly adjust frame flex from what I understand.

Edit: I can see we're all reading the same propaganda.
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Closed Casket · May 3, 2013

chasbo said: ↑

Yes! I love seeing that!
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OK, is it youth and treachery overtaking old age and wisdom? I just don't understand why Nicky has been slower than Dovi and now Crazy Joe on basically the same bike, which Nicky has been riding a gazillion years.

Oh, and why does Pirro get to ride the new bike first??? WTF?

Osmin C · May 3, 2013

Closed Casket said: ↑

OK, is it youth and treachery overtaking old age and wisdom? I just don't understand why Nicky has been slower than Dovi and now Crazy Joe on basically the same bike, which Nicky has been riding a gazillion years.

Oh, and why does Pirro get to ride the new bike first??? WTF?
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So if it sucks, it doesn't ruin Nicky and Dovi's efforts in Jerez.

mdubya · May 3, 2013

Closed Casket said: ↑

OK, is it youth and treachery overtaking old age and wisdom? I just don't understand why Nicky has been slower than Dovi and now Crazy Joe on basically the same bike, which Nicky has been riding a gazillion years.

Oh, and why does Pirro get to ride the new bike first??? WTF?
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1. Pirro is the food taster...err...test guinea pig.

2. Hayden appeared to be using hard front and rear tires though out FP2, most likely working on a race set up. He has been faster than Dovi in both sesions.

Crazy Joe is plenty fast. He has arm pump issues though and may not do so well in the race.

mdubya · May 3, 2013

Combined times for comparison

Rider
Nation Team MOTORCYCLE FP1 FP2 Gap
1 99 Yamaha Factory Racing J.LORENZO SPA YAMAHA 1'39.701 17 1'39.562 4
2 26 Repsol Honda Team D.PEDROSA SPA HONDA 1'39.704 11 1'39.757 4 0.142 0.142
3 35 Monster Yamaha Tech 3 C.CRUTCHLOW GBR YAMAHA 1'40.113 12 1'39.733 5 0.171 0.029
4 46 Yamaha Factory Racing V.ROSSI ITA YAMAHA 1'40.067 20 1'39.874 16 0.312 0.141
5 93 Repsol Honda Team M.MARQUEZ SPA HONDA 1'40.485 15 1'39.889 15 0.327 0.015
6 19 GO&FUN Honda Gresini A.BAUTISTA SPA HONDA 1'40.838 17 1'40.507 9 0.945 0.618
7 29 Energy T.I. Pramac Racing A.IANNONE ITA DUCATI 1'41.078 11 1'40.574 15 1.012 0.067
8 69 Ducati Team N.HAYDEN USA DUCATI 1'40.722 14 1'40.837 18 1.160 0.148
9 8 Avintia Blusens H.BARBERA SPA FTR 1'41.340 11 1'40.736 14 1.174 0.014
10 41 Power Electronics Aspar A.ESPARGARO SPA ART 1'40.910 13 1'40.738 12 1.176 0.002
11 6 LCR Honda MotoGP S.BRADL GER HONDA 1'40.799 20 1'41.053 13 1.237 0.061
12 4 Ducati Team A.DOVIZIOSO ITA DUCATI 1'40.944 13 1'40.884 14 1.322 0.085
13 51 Ducati Test Team M.PIRRO ITA DUCATI 1'41.326 10 1'40.902 13 1.340 0.018
14 38 Monster Yamaha Tech 3 B.SMITH GBR YAMAHA 1'41.778 20 1'40.990 21 1.428 0.088
15 14 Power Electronics Aspar R.DE PUNIET FRA ART 1'41.431 7 1'41.078 18 1.516 0.088
16 7 Avintia Blusens H.AOYAMA JPN FTR 1'41.671 15 1'41.774 18 2.109 0.593
17 9 Came IodaRacing Project D.PETRUCCI ITA IODA-SUTER 1'42.160 20 1'41.751 14 2.189 0.080
18 5 NGM Mobile Forward Racing C.EDWARDS USA FTR KAWASAKI 1'41.764 19 1'42.058 10 2.202 0.013
19 71 NGM Mobile Forward Racing C.CORTI ITA FTR KAWASAKI 1'42.727 11 1'41.790 16 2.228 0.026
20 68 Paul Bird Motorsport Y.HERNANDEZ COL ART 1'42.155 15 1'42.603 13 2.593 0.365
21 67 GO&FUN Honda Gresini B.STARING AUS FTR HONDA 1'42.941 18 1'42.606 17 3.044 0.451
22 70 Paul Bird Motorsport M.LAVERTY
GBR PBM 1'43.948 14 1'42.974 13 3.412 0.368
23 17 Cardion AB Motoracing K.ABRAHAM CZE ART 1'43.334 16 1'43.356 9 3.772 0.360
24 52 Came IodaRacing Project L.PESEK CZE IODA-SUTER 1'43.564 13 1'43.403 12 3.841 0.069

Link for easier reading http://resources.motogp.com/files/results/2013/SPA/MotoGP/FP2/CombinedPracticeTimes.pdf?v1_d50179bf

mdubya · May 3, 2013

What I want to see is a scrap between Rossi and Marquez. If Marc finds his mojo this weekend, there might not be a chance for that. But if they are scrapping over second or third, I think it could be fireworks.

Motodisiac · May 3, 2013

I'm really impressed by Crutchlow. He is riding last year's satellite machine and he is consistently threatening top 3. I wonder what he could do on Rossi's Yamaha.

DC2wheels · May 3, 2013

Still confused...maybe David can give some insight.

I was under the impression that the Tech3 bikes are last year's factory machines, yes?

NOT last year's satellite bikes, NOT this year's factory bikes but a few updates behind the factory riders.

Have read many confusing opinions from several different websites.

Drif10 · May 3, 2013

So far, there's no 'fast' guy, no rabbits. If that holds true after tomorrow, then it makes for a really interesting race.

Lorenzo and Pedrosa have the M.O.: Crank out the the quick, smooth, flawless laps, and just go away for the win. If they lack that chance, then just look at who's there to scrap with: Marquez got lots of practice doing that in M2, so did Iannone and he's quick this weekend. Crutchlow is a known pitbull too. Then there's 46, in my opinion the best at racing. That is; finding a way to make passes where you wouldn't think, and make them count.

If this race becomes a bar fight, my money is on Ianonne and Crutchlow early, then 46 for the win. MM will crash out, he's prone to mistakes in a scrap. 99 and 26 will take the long view and make sure they finish.

Or so the voices in my head tell me.

mdubya · May 3, 2013

Nicky's right wrist isn't very happy.

chasbo · May 3, 2013

Jeebus! I can't imagine trying to control a motoGP bike with a bum wrist! He is a trooper!

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