How to get proof of ownership for a bike w/no title

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by D0N, Jan 28, 2011.

  1. _cy_

    _cy_ Long timer

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    how would one get VIN verified without illegally driving to cop and/or DVM?
    car would have to be trailered .. then DVM will not like fact you are registering in another state.
  2. kdxkid

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    Hello all!

    Tried to scan the last 32 pages to see if this has been asked and I am not sure:

    I have a 2002 KTM 400 EXC, no title. My goal is to get the thing plated so I can connect trails. I do not care about transferring to my state (I would continue to renew).

    Has anyone had success with a bike over 300cc AND newer than 15 years old? If so, what additional paperwork is required?

    -Bill of sale (does this need to be notorized?
    -VT DMV Forms
    -Reg. fees + tax

    Thanks!

    Ian
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    der_saeufer Пу́тін хуйло́

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    Non-titled cages (15+ years old) don't need a VIN check. That's only for titled vehicles or non-titled motorcycles 500cc and up. Don't ask me why they do it that way.

    You're not going to get anywhere with that. A 2002 400cc bike needs a title in Vermont just like it does in Maryland (and every other state except possibly Rhode Island). Without a title, VT will just send your stuff back, at least until 2017 when that bike's 15 years old. Sorry.
  4. kdxkid

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    weak!
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    Sent my stuff in to Vermont for my '82 XT 250 on March 31st.

    Nothing yet. Tomorrow maybe….
  6. greg2015

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    Just checked my online banking account and saw that my check was cashed by VTDMV!!! Stuck at work now, but suddenly feeling quite ill:evil might need to leave work early to race home and check my mailbox:D
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    Just dropped mine in the mailbox, fingers crossed
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    Came home to a completely empty mailbox:huh maybe tomorrow:augie
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    KX50002 NooB, my ass

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  10. Mcgreggerson

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    I've been getting the run around from my state DMV, so i'm going to try this. My bike is an '81 XS650, so I got a vin verification the other day from my local LEO, called VT dmv to get the tax amount for my bike, and I've got everything ready to send off. Just waiting on my paycheck.. sucks being a broke student.

    If it works just fine, I'll use the same method to get registration for my honda ct110 and get it usable outside of town. (my town thinks it's a moped and never ask any questions)
  11. greg2015

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    I know, I know... "Patience Daniel-san"
  12. greg2015

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    WOOO HOOOOO!! This works people!!:deal

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  13. mbabc

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    Great news Greg. I hope to have similar good news next week.
  14. greg2015

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    I hope you do as well Mark. Now all I need is about 500 round-to-it's to finish restoring my 78 DT250:wink:

    Good luck to all that have applied or have future plans to apply too:lol3
  15. drewfinn1

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    did you just use your home state drivers license number in place of the requested VT number? I have a 64 c200 that Im itchin to ride legal-like
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  17. der_saeufer

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    Oldest Craigslist scam in the book. Run don't walk.

    And the Vermont route only works for bikes that are 15 years old or ≤300cc.
  18. Boatman

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    Not sure in other states but in NY you can apply for a replacement title online,,,, takes about 3 minutes. All you need is the last titled persons date of birth and the VIN. The replacement title gets mailed to the address on the title. I've done it a half dozen times or so when the person didn't want to be "bothered with the paperwork"
  19. greg2015

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    From post #72 quoting luniz7:

    This might help some people out with what to do on the form. Remember this is for a 15+ year old motorcycle. Im not sure what you would do for something newer. You need to fill out the following boxes on form #TA-VD-119.

    1A- will be NEW
    1B
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    3C
    4A- will be you as the owner, ignore the VT DL
    5B- will be the seller you bought it from
    6A- purchase price of the bike and the 6% tax of the purchase price
    8- sign and date
    9- Registration fee. $44.00. Take the tax amount from 6A. You will fill out Registration, Tax, and the Total Fees.

    Send completed Vermont registration form, check for the fee (made out to Vermont DMV, VIN verification form, and bill of sale to 120 State Street, Montpelier, VT 05603-0001.
  20. Tanshanomi

    Tanshanomi Your Favorite Uncle Supporter

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    Has anybody who's gotten a VT plate and registration successfuly used that to get a title in their home state? Anybody tried and failed?

    I'm curious because Missouri DOR & MSHP are title nazis, especially when it comes to motorcycles. They find a way to invalidate everything.