Most Important Things to Know For a Motorcycling n00b.

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by MotoMusicMark, Mar 26, 2010.

  1. shu

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    I agree, that's really bad advice.

    Use your mirrors often,but quickly, as tommy goes on to say. You should always know who's behind you- left, right, and center- and whether they're gaining on you.

    The problem of nearly clipping someone in front of you when you glance in your mirror comes from following too closely.

    ..........shu
  2. DavidBanner

    DavidBanner Banned

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    goin fast is easy. stopping is the hardest thing to do on a motorcycle...think about that EVERY time you wind on the throttle.
  3. DavidBanner

    DavidBanner Banned

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    mirrors only say "NO"...they can never say "YES"
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  4. Mambo Danny

    Mambo Danny I cannot abide.

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    It makes sense. A check of a mirror can confirm there is something in a lane that you may want to change to, so that you can rely on (to decide to NOT change lanes), but checking your mirrors and seeing nothing there is by no means a good enough check to change lanes in and of itself.

    Twisting one's neck, head and even upper torso (if need be) to put eyes on each lane change is very nearly a motorcycle requirement. So much so that you will see guys who were raised with motorcycles doing it while driving cages for that extra safety factor. It drives non-motorcyclists nuts that the driver is looking around behind them while driving at speed, but it's a good enough habit that it's not worth getting rid of it even if a driver is talented with his mirrors.

    This is also why a neutral-riding motorcycle is probably the best type for street use and commuting. Some cruisers and even more sport bikes put the head and neck in positions that, while totally do-able, make it a pain and/or takes more time (like, milliseconds, sure, but more time) to do the swing-around look. I've owned all three - the cruiser that had my upper-torso leaned back (the worst for a mobile head for lane checks), a ZX-7R that had my upper-torso leaned forward (doing head-checks required semi-contortionism, or looking up under my arm, or letting go of a clip-on to spin the torso and that arm around - I loved the bike and had no trouble doing any of them, but I'm admitting that it wasn't as easy or quick as a J.U.M.), and an old Japanese Universal Motorcycle (and now this DR650) that make head-spinning the easiest.
  5. tommyvdv

    tommyvdv Been here awhile

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    I agree, not checking your mirrors is awful advice. (i was trying to make a point, but i may have messed up the way i went about it)
    I've learned a bit about myself since i started riding/driving.

    I'm absolutely obsessed with what's behind me. And every time i get myself into a pickle it's due to knowing all too well what's behind me, at the cost of not knowing what's in front of me. And following too close is something i avoid at all costs. One second of staring in the mirrors means you've ignored the road in front for about 30 meters (depending on your speed at the time). Sometimes you should've used that distance to stop, instead of stare at what's behind you.

    In road in front is more important than the road you've covered.
    That doesn't mean you don't need to check your back.

    Check your back if you can afford to take your eyes off the road.
    And if you do take your eyes off the road; keep it brief.

    Hope that'll clear it up :)
  6. catweasel67

    catweasel67 RD04

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    I'm with the no mirrors boys on this one. To me they're a supplement. If you can't turn your head and take a look then you need more practice. They're like indicators/blinkers - you should know how to indicate a manoeuvre without them, same as you should have a level of awareness of what's around you without mirrors. Once you can do that, then I'd suggest you're good to go with mirrors.

    If you can't do a decent lifesaver (the look over the shoulder before switching lanes or overtaking) then you need more off road (parking lot etc) practice.

    Same rule applies to driving a car btw.

    Worth remembering that mirrors are pretty easy to break - if you can't ride safely without them.....

  7. potski

    potski Wiley Wanderer

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    You WILL come off a bike if you ride enough.. For you, wear the right kit and for the bike fit crash bars. BE PREPARED !

    Even if you are not generally mechanical, try and get into the habit of working on the bike yourself rather than relying on others; it's cheaper, you are self reliant, and it will give you pride.

    Cheers
    Potski :freaky
  8. Ahboon

    Ahboon Re-Cycled

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    This thread is for "noobs" so I realy don't want to get into a semantic discussion however: -
    1) Depending upon one's interpretation, "sport" does not have to be a competition (Scuba diving? Mountaineering?).
    2) I compete with the traffic most days.
    3) I don't measure my manhood by the size of the bike that throbs between my legs.
    4) I have been around long enough not to feel the need to prove myself over and over again - my ego just isn't that dominant.
    5) Enjoy your "sport" - whatever it may be, but get a life.
    Have a nice day..
    Cheers...
  9. Ahboon

    Ahboon Re-Cycled

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    Use your mirrors. Glance in them every few minutes - more frequently in traffic. What is behind you can be more dangerous than what is up front.
    Before overtaking or changing lane, always double-check (as suggesed above) by actually taking a quick look back to cover the blind spot that the mirror does not.
    Maintain a minimum of 2 seconds between you and the vehicle in front of you - more when the road surface or visibility is less than ideal.
    Enjoy the ride.
  10. braindigitalis

    braindigitalis Wet weather sucks!

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    "only a fool breaks the two-second rule". Leave a two second gap in good conditions, 4 seconds in rain and anything up to 10 seconds in snow or ice...
  11. catweasel67

    catweasel67 RD04

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    In snow and ice I prefer to leave a day or two :)
  12. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    Ditto. Hell I won't even drive a cage, even a 4WD one, in snow/ice if I can avoid it.
  13. braindigitalis

    braindigitalis Wet weather sucks!

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    Its amazing how many people here just seem to be able to decide not to go to work just because its snowing... I'm expected in even if it were ten feet deep in water snow and ice! Slave drivers...
  14. Craneguy

    Craneguy British Hooligan

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    When I worked in NYC I had a Land Rover discovery as a company vehicle. It was my job to go fetch the accounting department if their normal cars were snowed in.

    They loved seeing me show up when they thought they were going to have a snow day...not! :D
  15. ianmp

    ianmp *****

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    I disagree. The most dangerous way to ride is casually. The most important thing for beginners to learn and veterans to remember is that you have to be fully engaged, enjoying the sport every time you swing a leg over the thing.

    If it's on a bike, it's not a commute... it's a ride, even if it leads to work or school and back. As soon as you get on the bike in a flustered mood, or in a hurry, or with a bunch of pressing concerns, you are fucking up.

    source: >100,000 miles, >$10,000 in tickets >$260,000 in medical bills

    -Ian
  16. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

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    I agree.

    If you are racing then it is a sport. I commute every day. :D

    You don't sound like someone that should be giving advice to n00bs. :lol3
  17. Jetstreamer

    Jetstreamer Sandlapper Brapper

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    Buy gear before the bike. Otherwise you will be tempted to ride while not adequately protected.
  18. planemanx15

    planemanx15 Long timer

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    +1...

    Wear your gear around the house for a while to get used to it. Your helmet might be tight brand new, and you don't want to be riding while trying to fiddle with it.
  19. planemanx15

    planemanx15 Long timer

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    Thank you, fixed..
  20. braindigitalis

    braindigitalis Wet weather sucks!

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    Be prepared to spend half the value of your first bike on good protective gear and waterproofs :-) ...that is unless you're buying a ten grand bike on finance ;-)