I love my 4k mile DCT. I usually leave it in D but occasionally use S when riding 2 up on slower hilly terrain. I hardly ever use Manual but might if I were riding a lot of twisty roads at speed. There are many high dollar performance cars using the DCT technology, including BMW Chrysler lotus McLaren Mercedes Porsche and Audi.
Greetings, I tried searching for this on this thread. I hope to buy November/December of this year. I'd like to purchase brand new; however, some of the used prices look really good. But I do not want to get a bike that was thrashed for a couple of thousand miles. So my question is, "with the ref limiter in place, is it possible for a NCX to have a bad break in period? Seems like I read a lot about riders taking it to the red line the first day. Some more noob questions. If I find a new 2012 model late this year: 1. Will I get the full 12 month warranty? 2. How bad is if for a bike to sit around on the dealer floor for well over a year? 3. I'd like to get the heated grips and 12 volt socket. are these hard DIY projects? Maybe I should just have the dealer put them in. The total comes to $370 + labor. I feel confident, (with the help of others) the other farkles will be good to go. Thanks for reading.
I don't have one of these bikes or I would ride it out to Nevada and and prove the mpg's to Mr Vetter! Anyone live near Craig Vetter? Do you get 65? 75? 85 mpg's? He said... :huh He has pioneered high MPG vehicles for decades and without a doubt has met many that are doubtful of his claims. So I find it surprising that he is doubting the mpg numbers of the bike without any facts on his part.
Quite honestly I totally agree,,but come to that conclusion from a totally different direction,,,I actually had my test ride on the DCT,and thought at the time "Yeah great bike ,but not for me" but now ,I regret not spending the extra....Chill
The break in period is no real concern as most believe it occurs in the first minutes of a modern engine. It is nearly impossible to do damage to the NC by over reving. Normal use is a reasonable break in. If you buy used you get the remaining warranty time from the first customer's date of purchase. Sitting on the floor......only hazard is scuffs and scratches. If you by new 2012 off the floor you get the full warranty from your date of purchase. Heated grips and outlet are most likely not a good project for a noob......depending on a noobs mechanical skills. Many of the plastic panels must be removed, wiring connected using the Honda acc harness and throttle tube replaced. Instructions are detailed but not meant for a novice.
I installed all my accessories, which was most of what was offered. It was a bit of a pain in the ass to have to remove an astonishing number of layers of plastic to simply install a 12V outlet. I opted for $60 aftermarket heated grips as opposed to Honda's $220 grips. I wasn't expecting to have to cut bodywork to install mounts for side and top case either. None of it was particularly hard, but it's a no return option once you install it. As cheap as plastic is, and for what is charged for the kit, I'm surprised Honda didn't supply alternate tail plastic to compliment the alternate grab rails that come with the kit. I also thought that when you pay dealer prices for options, that part of the cost was installation. Not the case with my dealer. Chuck
Retail price for each plastic seat cowl cover is $168.............cheap and motorcycle plastic do not go together
Showkey, Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. I'll purchase a bike in Southwestern, Virginia. Within a 150 mile radius of my base camp there should be dozens of options to buy a good used bike. ___ Yeah, the Honda farkles on the NC700X are really expensive. I'd hope a buyer would get a good price on such items when buying from a dealer, but labor cost have to be there. I guess the best cost savings is getting the bike down to at least the MSRP, maybe invoice if you know it has been there for months and months. At least you start out with 21 liters of stowage
Hey guys, Sent in an oil sample from my NC to Blackstone. Used Mobil 1 4T and a standard Honda filter. I think I will shoot for 12K oil changes with 6K filter changes, although the particulates are quite low in my analysis and indicate my filter is working properly. Here's a snapshot: http://s4.postimg.org/3sn6y0r7h/NC700_X.png
I have the DCT and love it so far. D is for the birds, just plain dumb. S is pretty good, with crisp upshifts that you hear rather than feel. I don't use M, and really can't figure out why anyone would want to: both D and S modes are still shiftable with the paddles at any time. So, start, put in S, then ride away. Anytime a downshift is needed just tap the thumb lever. Up shifts happen as needed by the Japanese technicians who live in the tranny, but they can get lackadaisical: I've found myself riding on the interstate at 60 in 5th, so a pull on the trigger gets me to 6th w no hassles. I was concerned about the learning curve, old habits etc. It took about three minutes and the whole DCT experience became second nature.
All in, traded my 2009 BMW G650gs in for the 2013 NC700 (manual); got tired of listening to the thumper after 36,000 miles on it.
Lovely! I bet most of inmates would love to hear a comparo between the two (I'm wondering most about performance). Also, your seat seems to need a shave.
Yes please. Thinking it's time to retire my 650GS in lieu of: a new NC700, Versys, or second hand C14, 1150RT. From what I've read, the NC700 would be very similar performance wise (speed/handling) to the 650GS, smoother engine/trans, less expensive to operate, less capable off road. The Aprilia Mana was on the list as well, as there are a lot of old/new leftovers on the market. Can't commit to a CVT trans that requires special tools and ECU diagnostics every 8k. The Honda DCT seems much more logical.
I always place a sheepskin on the bike. The sheepskin originally came off of a horse jumping saddle; I had it on the beemer and now it resides on the nc700; from what I have read, my sheepskin is doing the same thing as a seats concept seat. Comparisons, hard to do since the beemer g650gs is considered a dual sport and the nc is an 'adventure' bike. The beemer is a single cylinder thumper (650cc) while the nc700 is a 670 cc twin. The twin is much smoother in both acceleration and sound. I never thought the beemer had vibrations until I got the nc700, now, I consider the beemer to be a paintcan shaker. Acceleration, nc700 is better and smoother thru all the gears and the beemer does not have a 6th gear. 60mph on the nc700 is 3100rpms, while on the beemer 60mph is 4100 rpms, heck 70mph on the nc700 is less rpms than the beemer at 60mph. I really liked the beemer for 36,000 miles, but the noisy thumper started to get on my nerves and I couldnt stand to listen to it anymore. Of what I have read, the NC700 has a higher top end speed but it does have that 6500 rpm red line while the beemer has a 7500 rpm redline (and it does cut out if you hit it ). The nc700 weighs more than the beemer, but I dont notice it at all. The nc700 just rolls thru the curves easier than the beemer. The stock seat on the NC is better than the stock seat on the beemer-the canted stock seat on the beemer will either kill your tail bone or your boys-pushing them into the tank. I havent got the nc700 on gravel or sand roads, but I think this is where the beemer would have it beat. I could ride the beemer at 50-55mph on loose gravel roads and wouldnt notice it (with only the Metzler Tourances). The beemer would rattle my teeth (ask my dentist who is currently replacing fillings) and the nc700 does not. I didnt notice the vibrations on the beemer-I have had other thumpers which vibrate more. The 2013 bmw g650gs is $2000 more than the 2013 Honda nc700 and that doesnt include heated grips and center stand on the beemer (these used to be standard equipment); even though I am a fan of the beemer, is it worth $2000 more than the NC, IMHO- no. The nc700 is a better deal, and with that extra $2000 you can buy knobbies, crash guards, hand guards, luggage for the nc700 and become a true adventure rider, but the future trade-in/resale for the beemer will be higher than the nc700 (maybe).