The I LOVE THIS GUN Thread

Speaking of the .30-30, there is an interesting history of cartridge designations, especially those using the caliber and another number, separated by a hyphen. There are at least five versions. Before the .30-30, most cartridges (.45-70, .38-40, etc.) were designated by the caliber (note the decimal point!) and the amount of black powder measured in grains, even though black powder cartridge charges are technically measured in volume, not weight.

Then, the .30-30 became the first to use the charge weight of smokeless powder instead of black powder.

Other newer cartridges used different conventions for the number after the hyphen. For example, Savage developed the first quarter incher that would go 3000 fps, so it became the .250-3000 Savage. Later, the .250-3000 was necked down to .22 caliber and the new wildcat became the popular .22-250 where the second number referred to the shortened parent cartridge name. The year of introduction was also used, such as the .30 caliber round the military introduced in 1906, or the venerable .30-06.

The 500 combo's on sale here for $259.00 at Bi-Mart

Yes I really like it. It has good wood on the butt stock. The forearm walnut is what I would call "OK".

And it shoots well. I have put 30 rounds through it since I bought it. The Hornady SST's grouped better than the Federals.

I wish I had the money to collect Ruger #1's. Oh well.

I have a Taurus tracker 7 shot .357 and the 8 shot stainless steel .357 and both have been completely reliable. We also have a taurus .22lr that needed to go back because the cylinder would bind after some shots were put through it. Since we got it back no problems at all.

Any gun you buy, new or used, you should put a couple 100 rounds through it to see how it performs. If you see a .44 taurus you like don't hesitate to consider it.

Joe

: Thought that was the ".22 high power"...in 1912.

The 22 High Power is based on the 25-35 case necked down.

"The .22-250 started life as a wildcat cartridge (or high velocity cartridge) developed from the .250 Savage case necked down to take a .224 caliber bullet. In the early days of the cartridge there were several different versions that varied only slightly from one to the next, including one developed in 1937 by Grosvenor Wotkyns, J.E. Gebby and J.E. Smith who named their version the 22 Varminter.[3]"

Source.

Cool, thanks. I'm sure some here knew that, but I didn't.

That Winchester is worth at least three times as much as that Rossi revolver.

Yup.

Ive seen those Rossi for $300

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As little as I shop at Walmart thier ammo prices do rock.

When you think that the bulk that company has to buy in they do.

I'd go $300 and the Rossi.

Marlin was the one who coined the "30-30" phrase. They didn't want Winchester's name on their guns.

You can get the 12 gauge, double barreled Remington for about $109.95 at S Mart. That's right shop smart, shop S Mart.

Get your hand on one of these and it will feel good and shoot good:

THIS.

Yesterday had a trade offer fpr the 30-30 for a CZ-85 with holster and 3-5 extra mags.
From what I'm reading that is a nice pistol.
Bad news is, it's not on the California roster...

I know of a guy who was trying to sell a gun of similar vintage for $350.00 because it was in about the same shape. He traded it for a cheap semi auto handgun that was wroth about 300 dollars and found out later the guy he traded it too had it appraised, and it was worth $3500.00.

According to the link you provided the CZ85B began production around 1986. Is it a pre '94 gun and does California have a "pre ban" policy because while that pistol isn't Massachusetts compliant if it was built before '94 it would be "pre ban" and allowed here. I've wanted a CZ for a while.

I think he would have to buy 10 round max mags either way.

We may only be Nuevo Mexico, but at least our gun laws are not draconian!