2013 Dakar Pre-Event Discussion

SPEEDBRAIN!!

Kinda of a big problem! Sahara sands are better suited to being run over by the circus.

I just want to thank the F5 Aliens for what I know will be excellent coverage and analysis. Really appreciated it during Neduro's race last year, absolutely excellent!

WTF is going on now??

The times of SS1 will be multiplied by factor 3 or 5?

:huh

:huh

I guess more will be known after tonight's briefing (anyone know when this is?). Until then, we can start the F5 ludicrous rumor mill.

The ASO obviously wants to destroy some people's prepared strategies on short notice. Whose and why?

Suppose if everyone has their times factored by the same x then it wouldnt make a difference....well will widen the gap a bit if they round off the times...but if they have some crazy..how do you say...factor du francais...then this could be just plan wierd...



Edit: Ya that would be messed up...stage one would become much more important if they times it by 5...

rider x has a time of 5:06
rider y has a time of 6:01

x5

rider x now has a time of 25.3
rider y now has a time of 30.5

That one minute difference just became a 5-+ minute difference...

Stage 1 may have just become much, much more important than a short prologue

"You WILL give it your all from the START!!!"

I actually read that last nite in the offical bike-quad rules, dunno why but it's in there, I recall they said 5,
makes the times seem better??

Oops I'm Late....shit

edit:I don't they just dreamt it up, the rules seem to be a few months old

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m50p-XScreM

Robby Gordon’s in again, Red HONDA Johnny yay! <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
Mouth specific; Peterhansel, MINI Raider-go!<o></o>
Al Attiyah had a vision; it’ll break on television
Carlos’s sayin’, he’s a prayin’... doesn’t wan-na’ go...! <o></o>
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Husaberg’s all gone, KTM not for long;
Goncalves, real good guy, mud’ll get ya’ in the eye <o></o>
Husqvarna Speedbrain, HONDA's got some new names;
Rodrigues, Pizzolito, Sunderland (bye bye )...<o></o>
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We didn't start the f5ire
It was always burning
since DAKAR's been churning
(AD)V didn’t start the f5ire
ASO did light it
and we just can’t fight it <o></o>
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Holowcycz, Duncan Vos, Nasser flicked a fan belt off
Ullevalseter, Viladom’s, podium plot<o></o>
CeePee’s, WeePees, mustaches are free please
RedBull, tank full, race around the clock<o></o>
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Alain Duclos, James West, Sherco's got to finish yet?
Husky rockets, Matty Fish, Joan Barreda, make a wish<o></o>
Guerlain’s MINI test, binned it while the boss was there, :ddog
Savin-face/in disgrace? not if your with eX-raid... <o></o>
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We didn't start the f5ire
It was always burning
since DAKAR's been churning
(AD)V didn’t start the f5ire
ASO did light it
and we just can’t fight it :huh<o></o>
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Throttle on, full attack... dismantle bivouac
Czachor, Fretigné, bikes in the river... hey? :eek1<o></o>
Terranova pendecho, who’d a thought he’d start at all?
Darkhorses; Overdrive - children of a Hallspeed ride.

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Kurt Caselli, Ben Grabs, best rookie...? have a stab!
Verhoven, Casteau, Coma is a no-go <o></o>
You too, Bor-done-ne... payola or Ferrari?
Rubby Gordon’s psycho - helium in his Toyo’s...??!! <o></o>
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We didn't start the f5ire
It was always burning
Since DAKAR's been churning
(AD)V didn’t start the f5ire
ASO did light it
and we just can’t fight it
<o></o>
Anyway MOTUL... no more thanks the tanks full
No Bull, SPEED fuel, fizzy drink invasion <o></o>
Simon’s from Oztraylia, British Pyndon-mania
Todd Smith, Stan Watts, Strange’ll beat, many twats...<o></o>
Pope Pål, Jacek, British military-ex
C Despres... mud again?! What else do I have to say...? <o></o>
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We didn't start the f5ire
It was always burning
Since DAKAR's been churning
(AD)V didn’t start the f5ire
ASO did light it
and we just can’t fight it <o></o>
<o></o>
Tech inspection, once again, redneck turbo back again?
Holeshot, not stock, ‘strictor-gate, suck c#ck!
make ‘em fake ‘em book in time, error on the start line
I heard Coma's in a van, aluminium hat’s again? :jose<o></o>
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Fiambala suicide, Andes is a scary ride... :huh
Rally debts, DNF’s, ASO money gets
Hypothermics on the floor, alien's under special law,
SPEED and MONSTER cola wars, I can't take it anymore... <o></o>
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We didn't start the f5ire
It was always burning
Since DAKAR's been churning
(AD)V didn’t start the f5ire
ASO did light it
but this thread went off and it still went on and on and on and on and on and on and on... <o></o>
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We didn’t start the f5ire...<o></o>
It was always burning
Since DAKAR's been churning... <o></o>

Very Nice!!!

Word is they don't want the pros to go extra slow on the prologue so they don't have to open SS2. But isn't the result sending rallyraiders into full SX mode?

Maybe we see Caselli winning SS1 and lots and lots of overturned buggies, capsized trucks and amateur riders with broken ankles. Not sure I like that.

TSC brings it again.

So, on stage 1, F5 becomes F15?

If they didn't do that, then a guy could take it a bit easy on stage 1, and drop 1 minute or so of overall time to his competition. Then on stage 2 he starts maybe 5 or 10 minutes later, forcing the front runners to have the navigation challenge, and allowing himself to just follow their tracks and make up 5 or 10 minutes on stage 2. That puts him 4 to 9 minutes ahead on overall time. A super fast guy with minimal navigation experience, like Kurt Caselli, could be leading Dakar by 9 minutes after stage 2!

4th January 2013 09.00pm: Race and Assistance Briefing in Lima
1) Prologue
a) A prologue will be organised during the Stage n°1. The Riders will leave in the order of their race numbers. The gap between Vehicles will be specified via a Bulletin during administrative checks in Lima.
b) The prologue will define the starting order for Stage n°2. For bikes and quads, the winning Vehicle will start first, the second will start in the second place, and so on. The time done for the prologue will be counted in the general classification with a 5-ratio. A Vehicle achieving a
19/106 Bike &#8211; Quad Regulations / Dakar 2013 www.dakar.com
time of 5 minutes and 30 seconds will be attributed, at the general classification, a time of 27 minutes and 30 seconds. The prologue total distance will be approximatively 12 km.
from the rule book pg 18/19

oser

Group start!!!





Because Dakar should be difficult from first minute.