Is ATGATT overrated?

Yea, never did figure him out... He rode the scooter because he was a senior in college and still didn't have his driver's license! Yet he was the first to volunteer to ride-along on track days... go figure...

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Oh yea, HISTORY major. Guess that says it all.

this is such an original idea for a thread. Please move this to an oil thread.

How about a

"What oil do you use on your tires when the blinker fluid is low" thread?

but to be or not to be ATGATT while doing the work?

Which could of happened on a bicycle. Do you wear full leathers on a bicycle as well?

An accident, mishap, or, more archaically, misadventure, is an unforeseen and unplanned event or circumstance, often with lack of intention or necessity. It usually implies a generally negative outcome which may have been avoided or prevented had circumstances leading up to the accident been recognized, and acted upon, prior to its occurrence.

If collisions are unavoidable, why do people take learner classes or other advanced classes?

I mean it must be pointless because crashes are unavoidable by your logic.

Seriously you can get the risk down to that of bicycling or walking which you would never full leathers for. If you are raising your risk higher because of the way that you ride then you probably need gear and when I ride in that way I do, but that is not ALL the time so I am just SOTGSTT.

I really don't see what is wrong with adjusting the level of gear with the appropriatness of the situation.

Advanced Imagination.

Deer whisperer? Think like the deer,be the deer,love the deer.........
Next thing you know you'll smack a bear.

Can someone explain why they are deer whisperers when they are on their bicycle if you want to use that logic? Or do you wear full leathers on that as well?

Send it again, and tell them again to put cover sheets on all of their TPS reports too.

:huh

Jim

ATGATT is overrated...until you crash.

Just remember, that these statistics contribute nothing to the discussion, because most driving happens within ten miles as well. If, for examples, fatalities double but exposition time triples, it's stell safer.

Right is, I have nearly no experience with painful abrasions - whenever I crashed I was properly geared. (Well with the exception of that one time on the bicycle in my youth - gloves would have been nice.)

That's interesting, because dirt biker should know best that there are times with high accident probability and times with low accident probability and that different gear is neaded for different types of riding.

It is always appropriate.

Are you really ATGATT if you are not wearing, kidney belt, spine protector and airbag leathers?

There are some people on this thread that seem to think that ATGATT actually means Darien onesies.:huh

If I am riding my scooter at the same speed as I would ride a bicycle the 1km to the shop, do I need airbag leathers? Would you wear this on a bicycle?

ATGATT means what you want it to mean. If it's kidney belts to you, then that's what it is. If it's Road crafter, full faced helmet, gloves and boots to someone else, then that's what it is.

We draw our own lines, but even the anti-gear folk seem to have an idea of what it's not. (bare feet, no helmet no gloves etc...)

I don't think that is accurate. People have a go at people not being atgatt because they are wearing jeans all the time.

ATGATT must be the best gear available (including kidney belts, airbag leathers etc) otherwise you have no right to criticise others as you are making the same risk decision that they are (just at a different point in the spectrum). The airbag might make the difference in the crash, how can you possibly ride without one when one is available on the market?

I've made a risk/fun assesment, and drawn my line.


Jeans offer no protection, so they're not a piece of "gear"