AMA Pro Roadracing: Daytona!

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  1. jktpa

    jktpa X-Troller

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    watched it on speed2 good race!
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  2. yooperbikemike

    yooperbikemike high, wide and handsome

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    Ama put gillam p3 due to placement of transponder. Beat Matt 'ski across line
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  3. mdubya

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    Good to know. I was wondering if they really were streaming live.
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  4. mdubya

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  5. RichBeBe

    RichBeBe All Hail Seitan!!!

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    Gotcha...Thanks, makes sense from the map. They keep the big bikes off of the turn#1 and 2 tri-oval.
    I knew it had to be something, the laptimes were so different.
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  6. yooperbikemike

    yooperbikemike high, wide and handsome

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    Hayes fries his clutch off th line and drops out 5--6 laps in; RLH crash w on the 1st lap
    Herrin, Cardenas, Pegram
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  7. yooperbikemike

    yooperbikemike high, wide and handsome

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  8. mdubya

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    Can't believe Cardenas didn't pull that off! Congrats to Josh.
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  10. Me and my monkee

    Me and my monkee Feels like Jackson Pollock looks

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    Missed it. Anywhere to watch it online now?
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  11. Jim Moore

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    We couldn't see Cardenas wheelie coming out of the chicane from the grandstands, but it was obvious something had happened. Herrin suddenly had 15 bike lengths.
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  12. wpbarlow

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    The racing was interesting for some positions, and the camera work was pretty good. I was very surprised at how the last lap unfolded.

    But talk about an event with the stench of general disinterest. :cry

    Remember when the big debate about the Daytona 200 was limiting the number of riders to 80 (iirc) or so in 3 waves of riders?

    Almost as depressing as the small number of fans-- no fooling, it looked like there were more people on the track (crew, etc.) than watching.

    I'm starting to feel that roadracing is just not engaging enough for many fans these day. As brutal and difficult as it is, without an appreciation of what the riders are actually doing it looks unexciting compared to, say, supercross. And that's in person. It's even worse from a TV perspective-- as roadracing doesn't work well with the "switch the camera/image every 2-4 seconds" viewing that today's seemingly ADD-afflicted young fans need.

    Know what else I found depressing/surprising? Larry Pegram's comments re looking for another sponsor. Instead of saying something like "hey, I can offer you a lot of TV time for your product" he says "anyone out there have extra money in the advertising budget to sponsor me?" Not what I'd expect from a person who's accomplished so much wrt putting together a credible effort for so long.
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  13. Cpt. Ron

    Cpt. Ron Advrider #128

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    And pulls out a third place on a new-to-him bike....:deal
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  14. wpbarlow

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    According to their website, Speed is showing the 200 at 1:30 on Sunday, flattrack at 6, and Superbike & Sportbike at 9. Eastern time.
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    Well that's the problem. He can't promise that because the TV deal isn't really clear enough to give real exposure numbers to a sponsor.
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  16. yooperbikemike

    yooperbikemike high, wide and handsome

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    Hayes has another mechanical, Herrin has an off-track excursion, Cardenas cruises to the win
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  17. viajero

    viajero Too old to be a nOOb

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    Hayes must be crushed. His teammate is leading the points, and Pegram is second.

    Bad weekend for the Buells. I had hoped they'd be more competitive.

    Hope Hayes hasn't caught some strain of Spies disease this year.
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  18. Motorcyclist

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    So true, Walter, so true.

    I've had high hopes that the on track competition of the series would bring in fans, and thereby attract sponsors. Sadly, that has not been the case. The on track product is still very good, and quite competitive - especially the DSB class. Personally, I don't care that the 200 is run on smaller bikes, and I recognize that the Superbikes just abuse the tire too much at that facility to make it safe.

    But the obvious small attendance, lack of a TV package, and as you said, feeling of general disinterest is quite disturbing. I expected a lot more from DMG with regards to promoting the series, bringing in new sponsors given the NASCAR connections, and generally making the series more streamlined and professional.

    And based on what I'm seeing, I agree with Harvey Mushman that it may not survive the year.
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  19. jktpa

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    I've heard from friends that live there and other that have gone to Bike week for years that attendance as a whole is down, fewer vendors etc. more of a conflict with the spring break crowd I think the scheduling of the event should go back to the firs week in March because of the new shced for the 500 the last two years it has hurt the bike event.
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  20. DogBoy

    DogBoy Not a Gnarly Adventurer

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    Anyone having any luck with any of the video feeds? On a Mac?
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