New day, new problem 12gs 2011

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Veter, Mar 2, 2013.

  1. Veter

    Veter Motoviajero

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    Here is what I have now - when with full tank only 1 cylinder is working, smells like gas, 'helicopterish' sound. Power and torque are volatile. When 3/4 of the tank starts to work OK. Any ideas?
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  2. stevie99

    stevie99 That's gotta hurt Super Supporter

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    Sounds like your charcoal canister might be full of fuel or the tanks not venting properly. That's where i would first look.
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  3. Mudcat

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    That is what it sounds like to me too.
    Veter, are you overfilling your fuel tank? You can’t do that. Don’t fill the fuel tank all the way to the top.

    One solution would be to remove the canister, it’s easy, but I don’t have direction for your bike
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  4. Veter

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    Thanks guys, will try it tomorrow!
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  5. ghostrider.y2k

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    Start the bike for about 45-60 sec, do not touch the throttle, shut it off and open the gas tank quick( second key helps).If there is vacuum in the tank evap solenoid is not working properly, take it to the dealer for repair under warranty.

    It happen to my friend 2011 GS, dealer try to blame overfill but it was not the case.BTW you should not top off the tank.

    y2k
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  6. Veter

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    yeah you are right, there is vacuum
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  7. stevie99

    stevie99 That's gotta hurt Super Supporter

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    You can perform a canisterectomy on it pretty easily and eliminate those type of problems.
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  9. ghostrider.y2k

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    Take to the dealer, evap solenoid is not working as it should.

    My friends bike did this and went to the dealer 3 or 4 times but the tech at the shop was a bonehead and try to blame overfill witch was not the case.

    You flooding the left cyl and thru the evap system.


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  10. stevie99

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    True, but my preference would be to remove it. I'd leave the solenoid plugged into the electrical system so it wouldn't throw codes but I'd directly vent the fuel tank and either plug the throttle body vacumn ports or connect them with a hose. Then you've eliminated one source of future problems and you can pound gas into your tank with no worries.
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  11. Mudcat

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    OK, so, removeing the canister will make the issue moote?
    If so, he could just disconnect the lines from the canister and plug the proper vacuum lines? That way he could hook the system back up when he was home if he wanted too.
    I don’t believe he has ready access to a dealer for a solenoid.
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  12. Veter

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    OK. So, I disconnected the tubes, isolated the vacuum one. Seems to work OK so far! Many thanks, guys!
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  13. stevie99

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    :thumb
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    :)
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    when you can please try to get this fixed right. The bike does pollute more without the charcoal canister.
    Rod
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  16. freyke

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    freyke Been here awhile

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    Thank you Al Gore... :rofl
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  18. LaurelPerryOnLand

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    What does inventing the INTERNET have to do with Charcoal Cannisters?:huh:huh:huh
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  19. GrouchyGeezer

    GrouchyGeezer idjit galoot, still

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    See if you can blow out the line that vents to the atmosphere from the canister. I had a similar problem with a noticeable vacuum when I popped the filler cap. Seems that some kind of insect made a home in the vent tube. Blew him away and all has been good ever since.
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  20. JetSpeed

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    Take the failure prone Evap system off and leave it off, I did and I can't wait for some of that global warming (that everyone's been talking about) to hit the East Coast.
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