Building a homemade sidecar lift

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  1. CCjon

    CCjon Gypsy Rider Supporter

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    NOTICE: You will be disappointed if you try to build this lift as I finally was. Was a failed project.
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    After asking for table lift ideas here, using internet searches and talking with Ural dealers, I slowly laid out plans to make my own table lift.

    Well, I finally pulled the trigger and decided to build my own sidecar lift. Laying on the ground to work on the rig is for novices... or when you are stuck on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere.

    Went from this set up.... a HF motorcycle table lift with a foot pump and a separate jack... and no way to raise them further. Some suggested that they straddle the MC lift and use it to raise both MC and SC. That would work with an air operated lift. On this lift the foot pump pedal is immediate to the side on the table, no way to relocate it.

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    To this... a table that supports all three wheels, can use a jack to raise any wheel for removal. Can raise and lower the rig safely.

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    Cost?

    The lumber from Lowes cost $151.21 plus tax.
    The two jacks and jack stands from Harbor Freight cost $294.88 plus tax

    Dimensions: Long Table - 24" x 84"
    Short Table - 18" x 48"
    Width - 60"
    Lowered Height - 8 1/2"
    Raised Height - 21"

    Basically copied ideas from a homemade motorcycle table lift then made changes for the sidecar. Yes mistakes were made along the way, a trail and ERROR process to work through to a final solution. Finding the center point of balance was tricky. Once the lift was built and I stood on it in a raised position, felt stable and flat. But once the rig was loaded and we started raising it, everything changed.

    Here is the Cliff Notes version of the build. From these you can make the changes to fit your rig and your abilities. To answer the question - Why I did not weld it? I don't know how to weld. I put myself through college working as a carpenter, not a welder.

    So... on with the show.

    First the base.
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    From one sheet of 23/32 plywood, and 2x4 framing.


    Second, the top frame
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    Third, the support legs out of 2x4's
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    Fourth, the legs installed to pivot on 5/16" bolts with lock nuts
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    Fifth, add the upper pivot support for the legs using bolts and lock nuts, The top deck will be screwed to these pivot supports and the top frame.
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    Sixth, the top frame installed and checking for smooth raising and lowering...
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    Seventh, laying the top deck pieces in place to check clearance and fit.
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    Eight, remove deck pieces to finish up inner mechanisms,
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    Nine, Fasten deck pieces in place with glue and screws. Note red rope, is to release for brake stop.
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    Ten, checking the working lift. Was stable with one jack, even standing on it, but without the Ural.
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    Eleven, add the ramps using the existing HF lift ramp and making a ramp for the sidecar wheel
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    Twelve, trying the first lift with the Ural and one jack. Not a good result, MC out weighs the sidecar, table sagged to one side, threatening to drop it.
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    Thirteen, okay, let's try it with two jacks, both centered between the MC and the SC. AGAIN NOT STABLE!!!!!!
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    Fourteen, the final solution, relocate the rear jack to under the MC and keep the front jack centered between the MC and the SC. Refer to the previous picture and you will see a 2x4 that had to be knocked out for the jack to fit under the MC deck.

    For additional safety and security, set the table down onto four jack stands while in the raised position. Raise the table slightly to remove the jack stands and release safety brake, then lower slowly.
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    Hope this gives you some ideas on how to build your own table lift. Time wise, I started working on it on a Thursday night, the grandkids came to visit for the weekend and I finished it on Sunday.

    CCjon
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  2. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    I don't have your mad skill.

    Do you take PayPal? :lol3
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  3. tony the tiger

    tony the tiger Long timer

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    :pynd nice! I didn't see a beer fridge in any of those pictures though... :twitch way cleaner than my garage. :1drink

    Good job!
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  4. Crush

    Crush Been here awhile

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    That is a nice looking lift.

    Nice job!
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  5. batphluke

    batphluke Adventurer

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    Superb. Well designed and constructed. Thanks for sharing this in so much detail, I think building one of these is going to be a future project for me (got to build a new garage/workshop first though :rofl ) . Have you thought about strapping the rig either onto the table itself or to a couple of fixed points on the floor each side to avoid any risk of it tipping while your working on it? maybe it doesn't need it, but I was thinking of when you jack up the chair to take the wheel off for example. I'm sure you've already got this worked out, but just a thought.
    Good to see a fellow woodworker showing his skills on this forum, makes a change from all those engineering and welding guys getting all the glory.:D

    :clap:clap:clap

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  6. NitroMax

    NitroMax Been here awhile

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    Nice, thanks for the pics !
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  7. Farmer1949

    Farmer1949 Out standing in his field

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    Really well done. Why did you use metal supports for the SC wheel portion rather than 2X4's like you did for the MC portion of the table?

    My Dad and Grandfather were the cabinet makers...my level of precision stops at framing...

    I am still intrigued with adding a side table for the SC wheel like what you have done to my HF lift......It is #354:eek1 on my list of projects......

    Thanks for taking the time to share all the pictures:clap

    Your garage is amazing!!!! I spend 30% of my time looking for where I just laid down a wrench in our slovenly farm shop.....my dad was a typical aerospace quality control engineer.....neatness and the desire to farm apparently skips a generation!!!!
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  8. CCjon

    CCjon Gypsy Rider Supporter

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    Dang, you caught my mistake..:wink: a slight miscalculation made the fit too tight between the lower frame and the upper frame for a regular 2x4, so had to use a smaller width steel support there.

    Thanks for the nice comments.

    Now to work on getting the Ural ready to pass state inspection, then learn how to drive it. It was sitting in a garage for over a year when I bought it. Came with boxes and boxes of spare parts that I do not know where they all go.

    Am studying the forum to learn and apply.
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  9. CCjon

    CCjon Gypsy Rider Supporter

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    time to fess up to all. In the end the lift I built was a failure. :huh

    It started twisting and binding when lifting that I was afraid it was going to dump the rig into the side of my wife's car. Or just drop it on the floor. Did not feel confident enough with it to crawl under the rig for any work when raised. :dog

    So I disassembled it, used the lumber for another project. Bummer....

    Am back to using the HF motorcycle lift with an auto jack under the S/C.

    So save yourself the time and money, don't build a lift like mine. Try a different approach. Wishing you better success than I had.

    Ride safe ya'll
    CCjon
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  10. jeffjones

    jeffjones "offroad shit"

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    buy a quality lift table made for atv's

    the handi-lifts used in many service shops have the option for adding sides to make it wider. not sure on the width of the rig, but i'd bet they have sides to match what you need..

    race width atvs at about 50" outside to outside fit on the "atv" extension lifts and we even had one lift with "utv" sides on it that fit the polaris ranger and other utv's
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  12. pcnorton

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    I use three car ramps. Run the rig front tire and side car tire up on two ramps. Jack up the back and slide the rear ramp in reverse. Rig stays in place, high enough to use a creeper.


    Paul
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  13. co_g30

    co_g30 Redlegsrides

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    Thanks CCjon for the lessons learned. I've thought about the HF lift and a side lift but don't have space to store the HF lift in my garage when not in use. I believe, don't know for certain, that folded, its high enough that it won't fit easily under the SUV.

    If I could figure out the storage issue, then I would do like the URAL dealer does when he works on the rigs, he separates the sidecar and just lifts the tug like a regular motorcycle. Of course, he's got a better lift than the HF lift but it would do the job.

    Can you confirm/measure for me the dimensions taken up by the HF moto lift when folded?
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  16. Old Mule

    Old Mule Long timer

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    I like your shop, looks clean. How much do those Urals weigh? I usually just hump one wheel of my Triumph up on a logs or cement blocks or something, one wheel at a time.
    I realize most sidecars are heavier now, though.
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  17. trike boy

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    just buy 2 harbor freight 1500 lbs. lifts. Then you can get under the middle and work on just about anything. Works great. ural with givi 002.jpg
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