I have a '13 800, which the dealer recieved at the beginning of March (not sure of the actual build date). I was in last weekend for my 500 mile service and the Service Manager mentioned this to me and said I was affected. I'll probably just deal with it at the 2000mi oil change.
Ah. Okay. I thought the 70s were over ... My opinion: oil change intervals that short are completely useless on modern engine and oil. It's just a revenue driver for shops and oil companies. Even the 6k interval is way short for a modern engine/oil combo.
Indeed. I go 1 year or 6000 miles whichever comes first as recommended in the manual. Which reminds me...I'm due.
As said - even the 6k intervals are not necessary on modern engines, they are revenue drivers. Just look at what for example Ducati does with the Hyperstrada: 9k intervals on a "service intensive Ducati". On normal road bikes today it's really just what they manufacturers want for their dealer network and for their reputation.
I've also read that doing oil changes too frequently is actually detrimental... Can't remember the study, but with modern oils its actually a little better to run a little longer. I've done 6k on all my bikes with synthetic, never had a problem...
There are quite a few studies out there about this topic. But there will always be disbelievers ... http://www.edmunds.com/car-care/stop-changing-your-oil.html http://www.dtsc.ca.gov/TechnologyDevelopment/OPPTD_FLY_High-Efficiency-Oil-Filters.cfm http://www.nordicgroup.us/oil.htm#The 3000 Mile Myth Even the oil industry promotes longer intervals.
Some interesting points in the articles. One thing, though, is they're all written about cars. With my cars, I usually split the difference between the manual and the oil manufacturer's recommendation, maybe a bit more if I'm using synthetic. My truck has a oil change indicator that I usually follow. It means I change the oil between 6k-8k miles. But, my truck spends a lot of time idling and at highway speed I'm around 2200rpm max. One article also points out that Porsche has the highest change interval at 20k miles, but it doesn't mention that a Porsche engine holds 9 quarts of oil. I wonder how much oil is in that bus that they recommend should have a 50k service interval? Is it a diesel, and what's the operating RPM of that engine? If I run the outboards on my boat for 100hrs (the recommended service interval) at cruise speed (4200rpm), I'd have traveled ~3000 miles. Is the load on my outboards equivalent to driving 3000 miles in my truck? Can I double or triple that service interval? Is it worth the risk? Maybe 2k miles is a bit much, but for a bike that may average 4-5k RPMs, maxes out around 10k rpm, and may have a relatively small amount of oil in the sump, is it that big a deal to change the oil more often? Maybe I'll hold off until around 3k, take a sample and have the oil analyzed and see what comes of that...
That doesn't really matter that much anymore. That's the only way to know for certain. From my perspective: I don't care. If it weren't absolutely 100% safe to run the 6k/1 year intervals the manufacturers wouldn't put them in the manuals. They aren't going to waste a single dollar on a warranty claim because of that. What this means is that even in the worst possible circumstances this will be enough. I actually stick with it but that's mainly because I do the rest of the service anyways and look over the whole bike at least once a year - which in the past was very close to 6k miles for each of the bikes. I would have no concerns at all running the Tiger for 10k without a change.
The OEM gives you a base line in mileage between changes. It really comes down to how much stress you have put on the engine in thje given mileage. Cruising around town and local highways on short jaints is good for 6K. If I take a trip where I run 80 mph for hours on end thats completely different. The viscosity breaks down much faster at higher rpm. I personally change my oil every 4k miles if localy riding. I tend to change it after every road trip where high rpms are run for hrs.
I'm in this camp. Oil gets dirty when it's working. If it's dirty it should be changed. Seriously though, an oil analysis is always good for a baseline. Have it tested out at your regular interval and then you'll know if you could go further or not. To me, the cost of the change isn't much more than sending a test, so I just change them. Fortunately the tiger holds a LOT of oil so it's probly a non-issue. Hell, about the same as a civic, eh? Sure it's good for a long interval.
Great dealer. They call me today order parts and to find a convenient time to do my turn signal recall, which have given me zero problems. Conscientious dealers are gold!
That's certainly up to you but it's still not necessary according to everything I have learned about that topic. Especially not with modern synthetic oil.
This just happened to me. I was having difficulty shifting down. The shift lever seemed to drop a bit. Now I can only shift to first and second gear. It won't shift any higher than that.
Well, that's how my troubles started too, bike has now been in the shop (second of two shops) for 6 weeks! The internal shifting mechanism is toast they tell me an ONE friggen part is back ordered. Last update was 5-28 before I hear anything. I've got two calls into Triumph NA so far they are very friendly but not able to help. Ill call again tomorrow and demand a new motor or a new loaner bike.
This is not an issue on my bike, the internals came apart. Im don't have the whole story yet and they are being rather secretive at this point. Im certain they will come through in the end.
I know there are a million oil threads but for some reason when people do this, it drives me nuts. I just don't understand why you would change your oil every 2,000 miles. I have a friend who does this and he swears that it makes his bikes last longer. But, how do you know they wouldn't last that long anyway. The money you can save changing the oil 6,000 miles (I push my oil because Amsoil guarantees it, so I will go 10,000 plus depending on how I've ridden), if indeed the motor doesn't last as long, I could replace the motor and probably still save more money than changing the oil every 2,000 miles. You have changed your oil about 4 times before I've changed mine once. Let's just say a synthetic oil change is $60 including the filter. Every 50,000 miles I spend $300. Every 50,000 miles you spend $1,500. :eek1 Wowzer! And for what? Absolutely nothing.