DRZ is a close match for this bike, but you are wrong about the suspension. The DRZ is fully adjustable and even has high and low speed compression adjustment in the rear. I bought a 2011 with 500kms on it for $4800 and added larger tank, rack, handguards, gps, seat concepts seat kit and windscreen and still have only about $6K into it. If buying new I would have certainly had the CCM at the top of my list. It will be interesting to see if the CCM has the same issue of needing a 6th gear that the DRZ has. Im impressed with the set up of mine.
He means remote adjustable preload I think which is extremely useful on this type of bike becasue you can set the suspension up for carrying gear/ luggage with the twist of a knob. The drz does have fairly good suspension hardware but it's sprung light for bags. better add a revalve onto that bill if you want to get close to the ccm I suspect and you still wouldn't have the remote adjustment without some kind of aftermarket shock (not sure if this is available or not). There's also a wide ratio transmission kit that I would expect one might consider if I was building a DRZ up to the kind of bike the CCM is. That's not that expensive ($700) but you do need to be able to split your cases to install it. maybe $1000 labor if you can't do it yourself? I had a DRZ and loved it. I dispute that it needs a 6th gear. it needed bigger gaps between third, fourth, and fifth gears with a larger 5th gear. I'd want to compare the stator output as well, and don't forget the crap headlight up front. you'd need to address that on the DRZ which might require the upgraded stator. By the time you have done all this stuff your bike is nowhere near stock and if you start figuring your time pulling wrenches into the equation I'm not so sure that the CCM would be a bad proposition. new bikes and the dealer network though, I agree. not much can be done about that. I'm optimistic though, if they sell really well and have a good buzz about them no reason that KTM, Honda, and Yamaha couldn't build a very similar bike as they allready have excelent 450 platforms with good reliability records. Whether I plunk down the 12k myself or not this is nothing but a great thing for the segment. I am seriously thinking about putting down a deposit on one. trouble is that I really can't justify 3 bikes and I like the 2 I have now so much I don't think I can part with them.
Good thing only 12 are coming, the price will keep most people away. I never did see an answer on what comes with the bike. 12 grand plus tax for a bike that still needs farkling is a bit much.
There is more than 12 coming. Do you honestly think its financially viable to only order 12? We have ordered more than twelve and we won't kiss and tell. The bike shown on the U.K site has been accessorized. Luggage, side racks, skid plate, rad guard and windshield adjuster and hand guards are options. All of these parts will be available if you chose to purchase them at the time of release. You won't have to wait for aftermarket farkels. Cheers
Not yet. If we do show up it will be guerrilla style. We are looking for a Montreal dealer to partner with. Thanks We will be in Toronto on Friday 21 to Sunday the 23rd booth 421 at Toronto M/C show.
I don't think CCM will have a problem selling this bike at this price, they are not a mass produced bike. CCM probably didn't have a hole lot of choices on what engine to use, I doubt any manufacturer would supply them with current production motors and if they build their own the cost would be high and we would be writing about this unproven engine for an adventure bike. I have no history with this engine so can't speak to it's robustness but I like that it's BMW based so parts should be easy to obtain. I'm thinking of replacing my current bike in the near future and this bike is on my short list. Trade my DL1000 on a new KTM 1190 or keep my DL and add a CCM? Hard choice to make my DL is fully setup for me and is in perfect condition and will last for many more years, the CCM is perfect for where I live and would give me a new area of off road adventure riding to explore. The KTM is a wet dream to ride, not an easy choice to make.
Wish I had been able to find this at the vancouver show.Seems like its going to be 15k for this thing by the time I get the high seat and some of the factory soft luggage and farkles. hmm
I think this is a good bike. I think it is a true adventure bike. Compared to say the KTM 350 and 500 (and a lot of others) which are dirt bikes with signal lights this bike can carry luggage. How can you have an adventure with out luggage? Most of the world uses smaller displacement bikes, except us in North America and Europe. Much easier to pick up a smaller bike and manage it in bad going. I'm glad CCM has developed this bike and I hope they sell lots of them. I'm actually trying to make my Honda XR400R similar to this concept since I own the bike already.
I'm waiting impatiently . are there any dealers in Ontario yet? when is the bike available for purchase? i got trips planned . north rider
Pongo... when i read 15K it reaLLY hits home. but you are SO right. that is at Least the number with tax and farkles to make this a adventurer. good god...that's aLot of bread... see what happens in 3 yrs or so come spring...crank what you got! PS: maybe some Asian bike companies can muster up some guts to build something a bit more like the bike on this thread!?
Do you think they'll build anything to the CCM's specification? If a Japanese manufacturer were to create anything close to this, it'll come in at a similar price for a similar spec. This is a low production, high quality bike.
Just stumbled on this thread. Some pics from the Edmonton show: Grizzler on the CCM Yours truly on the same bike. It is a sweet piece of kit...
where were the cute model bike girls? off making sure there skirts were short enough and their cleavage just right??? or did CCM cheap out?
Just two guys, shown to Grizzler's right. The two guys weren't from CCM, they were from the Canadian importer. The CCM was surrounded by scooters - this is the first motorcycle they have imported. You're probably not going to get a great warranty support experience, if that is a big issue for you. They said that you could switch a plug to get more performance from the BMW engine - I asked if that would void the warranty like it did on the BMW; I didn't get a straight answer. Sent from my GT-P5210 using Tapatalk
Price is almost always a deciding factor in everything, but I think in this case value is the real issue. From what I have seen this seems a good value. No bike can be all things to all people, but it sounds to me that many here are suggesting that the value is not there due to the size (engine displacement) of the bike. Is it wise to correlate size (engine or overall weight) with value? Isn't this the thinking that killed the North American luxury car back in the day (bigger and more has to be better)? For many in the ADV bike world less is more. From my own perspective of value in an ADV bike, the CCM seems to have that figured out pretty well. Time will tell.