Another Natl Monument in Utah !!

What did it say was there an error? Is anyone else not able to sign it?

Should I just make the email optional or is that adding some authenticity to the petition????

Seemed to work for me. Just signed. Is there some way to get this issue and our attempts to fight it out to the other regional forums? Seems a lot of people from all over use this area at one time or another. At least it will make them aware that this crap could be in their back yard some day soon. Then they may be needing our help.

Yes, many of us from other states frequently go to this area that is under threat. I'm even a COHVCO member due to CO riding trips. These people pushing these agendas are never satisfied, so it seems. I added my name to the petition.

Done

petition 'signed' letter sent -

If the outside rim of that included map is their goal - that'd get rid of the White Rim Trail.. etc :huh

It is too bad we don't have a way here on ADV to contact all 180,000+ members and let them know what's up.

I'd imagine if these companies were to receive a petition with 100,000+ signatures on it.. they'd shit bricks and give their stance some real thought.

Glad to see Nemo http://www.nemoequipment.com/ has kept their priorities straight, stayed off of there and realize even though they sell to the backpacking crowd they also sell to the moto crowd.

They are a HUGE sponsor of the Backcountry Discover Routes http://www.backcountrydiscoveryroutes.com/Sponsors
and their 25" wide 3" tall insulated Cosmo Air http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/...ulated-Inflatable-Sleep-Pad-w-integrated-pump kicks butt over the Exped
(which is on this list!!!) Downmatt.

Plenty ADVrs use Exped and i'm sure they'd love to know their pad mfg. is against what they love to do.

Red Wing Shoes
Red Wing, MN
Bill Sweasy
Chairman/CEO

don't get this at all???
Red Wing boots are the hard working mans boots not wilderness back packing boots. Plenty of guys ride in Red Wings

...oh wait same (parent?) company also makes Vasque
http://www.vasque.com/

I'm sure the Red Wing portion of the company is gonna hear an earfull about putting their name on that list.
also the heritage boots and hunting boots don't vibe at all either.

Bryce Valley KOA
Kampground
Cannonville, UT
John Holland
Owner

???
this guy completely caters to the large vehicle/RV/jeep/moto crowd.
the backcountry crowd does not stay at KOA at all.
this guy is really confused on who his target market is.

The vast majority of the WRT is already in Canyonlands. I could well be wrong but I assume that if all this new land were included in Canyonlands, then the current restrictions of Canyonlands would apply to the entire new NM.

For us this mainly means that you have to be street legal to ride any of the roads like you do now for the WRT. Some worse fallout would probably be that lots of minor roads and trails would be completely closed.

I assume most of the new land is now Forest Service or BLM. As such there theoretically should have been travel management plans created for it in the past few years that formally limit riding to specific roads and trails. This is enough of a catastrophe IMHO.

Support this idea 100%.

A simple link could email all of these companies. It would take some work to build the database however.

signed the petition, up to 16 now. WTF?

Well, get him(her?) on the horn and make this happen!

side note- i was about to purchace $2500 in new ski gear, but now i have to find new sources. At least i dont have to go skiing at aspen anymore. whew!

There seems to be a great deal of local confusion about what the "monument status" would be- It appears that in teh marketing, the limited access, "human powered only" has been overlooked.

Camp Chef, many others on the list are not for walk in campers

I'm surprised the mountain bike crowd would support this. Don't they realize that monument, or even wilderness designation means "no mechanical means" on the trails.

With the National Parks Service funding being cut, how would NPS administer this new monument? Or would NPS just close it as they have purposed for other parks. The size of this area would be very hard (expensive) to administer. Maybe Obama should just give it to the Chinese to run since he would have to borrow the $$ from them to operate it.

This monument proposal makes absolutely no practical sense....

Very possible.

Similar to Escalante (and others), many of the existing, well-established roads and routes would be closed. You won't see the full side effects until after the the proposal is enacted and the NM in place. Some of the roads will remain open, and they will build (and pave) new ones too (for the RV'ers and road-side gawkers). That said, there won't be any trail riding or sand riding (White Wash) or slickrock riding. . . and most of the roads to these areas would be closed to access anyway. Of course, there will be plenty of roads open only to "Administrative Access", so that they can drive on them, you know, to keep us in check.

As Pelosi once said, "you'll have to pass it to see what's in it" (ref to Obamacare).

I still think that the only way to head off this action is to get Jon Huntsman, Jr. involved. Our community is much smaller than the absolute greenies who are behind this movement. Huntsman knows his stuff and has strong connections to the current administration. He could give a good outline of the action and the reasons it is garbage. Here is his Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/jonhuntsmanjr

Make that #17 signature