1190 black dog skid plate

Thanks for all the comments and compliments guys!!

This is a brand new product obviously and I welcome any feedback you have.

Yes, the M8x20 bolts are for the front skid plate mounts and the M8x25 are for the rear. I will have to update the instructions. The four M8x30 "low head" bolts are for the footpegs bracket.

The footpeg dowel pin is worth its weight in gold for sure. Makes reinstalling the springs / pin MUCH easier. As an added bonus that pin should work on just about every KTM (not that any of you own more than one )

No, the footpegs do NOT need to be removed for an oil change. As I said in the instructions, make sure for the first install that the rear / footpegs mounts are loose before tightening the rear mounting bolts.

The skid plate will give a bit to remove and reinstall for oil changes. No hammer required. My suggestion is to hold one side in place and push the other side into position. I just changed the oil on my 1190 last night and it worked fine. Yes, it may take a bit of elbow grease but it is not a daily occurrence, and if you have that much trouble with it, maybe you should be on an XR100??

If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to contact me directly - either through a PM or through our website.

Thanks for your continued support
Kurt

Kurt, thanks for responding.

I can assure you that I had the foot peg bolts and the front crash bar mounting bolts very loose before I installed the plate and bolts. In fact, it was the only way I could get the plate in place.

My plate will not move after removing the four bolts. The front is completely loose, but the back is so tightly wedged no amount of force would move (or rotate) the plate on my bike (even levering from the front of the loosened plate). Maybe it is a KTM manufacturing tolerance issue, but I could not move it.

At the risk of being demoted to a XR100 I simply gave a good whack on each rear mounting point with a 5lb. deadblow and it works perfectly. you have to force it into place, but it is by no means stuck. I think it will be just fine. On a side note the BDCW rear rack installed easily and looks to be a fantastic product as well.

XR100 demotion is draconian, no.

Could you please tell me where you got the detachable pegs that you have mounted on the crash bars? Thank you.

That is strange. I didn't mean to make light for the situation. I have not heard this feedback from anyone else yet. You may need to bend it in a bit to make the removal for service easier. Sorry for any inconvenience

Thanks for your support
Kurt

Adventure Designs for the Highway Pegs

Kurt, I'm probably the only one (besides you) who has tried to remove/re-install the skid plate without loosening the foot pegs. The skid plate (according to instructions) fits outside the forward mounts and inside the rear mounts. On my bike, there is about 1/2" (summing the clearance of both sides) clearance at the front, but misses going back inside the rear mounts by about 12-15mm (the thickness of the plate plus a little) on each side. That's a lot of bending and I don't the right tools to do the bends.

I did get the skid plate off without loosening the foot pegs, but I had to hammer (rubber) on each side and pull the front at various angles to get it out from between the rear mounts. It was really clamped in there.

As far as I'm concerned, it is unacceptable to have to remove the foot peg mounts (even on one side) to get the skid plate back on.

I guess I will have to remove the pegs on at least one side to get it back together for now. :eek1

Not come off as well.

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I first want to say that this skid plate rocks! Very nice job, if you’re going to ride a 1190 like its a dirt bike you are going to want one of these protecting your bike. BD has learned a lot over the years with the 950’s & 990’s and you can see they brought wisdom and experience over to the 1190. Love that this relocated the side stand, that has always been an issue on these big heavy bikes. This skid plate is huge and gives this bike great protection! Yes this install is a little more work intensive the the 950’s & 990’s but I think the payoff is well worth it. I think if BD posts up a video on their site it would clear up a lot of misunderstanding and confusion. I would have love to watch someone else do it first. Now after doing it once it would only take 20 mins to do it again.<o></o>
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My only comment is to junk the Clip nuts on the back. I spent more time trying to get those F%$@ing bolts to go in. I finally junked them and installed the bolt and neoprene nuts. With the clip nuts it was too tight to push the plate up and then clip nuts would get all bent up and misaligned. Pulled the clips off pushed the plate up then used a drift pin to line up the hole (done).

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Lose the red font.

+1 on thru bolts with nyloc nuts on the outside.



I was able to re-install the skid plate by removing the left foot peg and then attach (loosely) the plate with the thru bolts. Next tighten down the left foot peg to bend the rear of the skid plate in 15mm and tighten the remaining bolts. It's a work-around till Kurt comes up with a proper fix.

Went out and pulled the plate just to be sure. If I remove the bolts it is tight enough to stay in place but a good jerk downward and it falls right off. Installing it is about as easy, put the front bolts in to hold it and the rears require just a little push to get them in. A tap with the heel of your hand to get the holes lined up and reinstall the nuts. I didn't measure it before I made adjustments but two good whacks on the rear holes with a 5 lb deadblow makes it perfect!
Great product, love it.

OK - mystery solved. We have determined that there were several skid plates from the first batch that were not build to spec - namely the distance at the rear mounts. These skid plates will be replaced with the next batch.

Our skid plates should DEFINITELY NOT require the removal of a footpeg to change the oil and we will be watching the production to make sure there is sufficient clearance.

Here is a little 1190 skid plate porn for you to enjoy...

glad you got that sorted. Second batch order in

Outstanding - thanks for the support!!

Now i read this about the back holes are not in spec, well sh** happend. That's why it took me 1 h to get the plate in position. First I thought it has something to do with the rubber insert on the front. But in the end things sort out well.

Anyway probably you could include the next batch the integration of the sensor as well. Here in Europe you get a problem with the cops, if they see the sidestand is not swiching off the engine while a gear is in.

I just flip the position to the upper part of the relocation bracket, two M4 with winding to fix the sensor. One M4 hole with winding to fix the OEM magnet. The only thing I have to do is tho make the wire longer about 20 cm. But that's just a hint.

Thanx again for the nice product, Kurt!

Greetings from Germany

Got a larger version of that?

Any plans to release a side stand relocation kit without having to use your skid plate? I already have a skid plate on mine.

This kit looks beefy as hell. When my '15 R arrives, there will be one of these waiting for it. Need to order a BD plate for the wife's F700 here shortly.