You are way too far away to offer to loan the cdi from my bike to try in yours, but, that is the first thing that comes to mind. Usually, a failing cdi causes engine dying with longer and longer times before it will restart. But, it is either the cdi, the coil, or the "exciter", or pulse generator; check all electrical connections to these items and their mounting. You may be getting a frequency dependent vibration that is momentarily causing a disconnect. If the wiring seems solid, you are into substitution tests. P.S. You have to split the bottom end to get at the pulse generator, so, I would wait on that until you do an oil change. Especially as (despite the troubleshooting guide in the shop manual) it is rarely the culprit. I have replaced one needlessly.
I have my old CDI that still works, so I´ll swap them and see what happens.. Edit: by the way.. if it were a problem with the pulse generator, wouldn`t I have that issue at any rev?
Does it hesitate and then run, stumble but run, or die? If it simply runs poor I would be willing to bet it's your emulsion tube. I tore my carb apart and as I recall it is part of the main jet as well. Either way, if you have an emulsion tube that is worn at all (more than 25k miles will do it) it will cause a rich mid throttle response which acts just like you have listed. I tried and tried to fix that on my old F650 BMW and had no luck. It took some advice from a jetting wizard (Factory Pro) who had the thought that I should check mine. If there is any sign of wear in the orifice or if any of the little holes are plugged, your cruise circuit won't work right. Mine had a bad large orifice (ovaled a little). Replaced them (2 on the BMW, 2 carbs) and VIOLA! Perfection. The Emulsion Tube is part #18 on this diagram. Here is place to find it. http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-nx250-1989-usa_model7482/partslist/E++16.html
I pray to the metal horse gods that`s it... It´s the only damn thing I didn´t change on my carb.. I´ll try to describe the issue.. I sit on the bike, start it with no problem (cold or warm), hit the street, whenever I get to 4000 revs, it will start jerking. If I maintain the revs constant in 4000 to 5000, it will keep on jerking for hours; only when I go below 4000 or above 5000 will the bike go smooth. That happens at all gears. Well, it seems I´ll have a busy afternoon...
shiver me timbers! This is a wierd symptom that it just so happens, was experienced by ME yesterday night...the 4k-5k 'bucking'.. It's just too bad that i'm 100% sure that your bike's issue is not the same as mine....but oddly, i had that exact experience last night.. Rode over to a buddies house last night, and we were going to ride a 'night loop' after work... (I got a ride on a sweet GoldWing Aspencade, fully dressed...holy crap, was he trying to make me give up the Nx2?) We took out his KX100, cranked up the KX250F, and the CR500 :eek1... finally, right before we embark, he says "Hey, lemme ride the NX"... I reluctantly said 'sure, ok....(grumble grumble)' He takes off out the driveway, and i can hear the bike bucking from where i stood.. He took two laps of the neighborhood, and you could hear the bike running well down low, running well up north of 6k...but in the mid rpm's, it was BUCKING, and jerking badly... He pullled back in and let me have it! "Why do i ride such a piece of junk? Why don't i let (local guy) rebuild the carb?"...... etc, etc... I knew he was not joshing, i could hear the bike bucking as he tried to ride it..but just sitting there, idling...i could blip the throttle all the way, and it seemed 'kinda normal'.. Well, he left to grab his kids, and i went to get some 'warm, night riding clothes'.. I went maybe 25 ft, and the bike was hesitating, bucking, missing and jerking...:eek1 The bike missed, and wouldn't barely run 25mph tops..(wth?) I barely got home, but i noticed that over 6k rpm, the bike would PULL HARD, and under 4k, it would lug right along.... but between 4k and 6k it would totally Misfire, jerk, and buck BADLY.. My ride for the night looked pretty badly..so did my ride tommorrow, and all next week..... (I was 99% certain he revved the junk out of it, and blew up the motor) So, I start checking connections, and they are all good/tight.... start to tear off the bodywork, and i remove the seat... BINGO!! Laying right on top of the opening for the airbox, was my registration paperwork, and it's plastic covering(bag)... It had formed a seal(completely) over the airway, and had a small corner that was allowing air to pass through...(at high rpms) I removed the papers/plastic, and NX go BOom!(good as new) That was all it was.....my buddy goosed it, and the negative pressure sucked the registration papers from the 'tail section storage area' right down into the airbox.. Now, do you have the equipment to check the Pulse Generator values? PG's are notorious failure points on the XRs....iirc, they are the same part, but the NX is water cooled, and XR's are hot blooded aircooled oilbaths..so in XRs you change them 'often'... you can check the PG in about two minutes, it requires chasing the wires up out of the crank case into the wiring harness plug... unplug it, and check the values...COLD(room temp)... If it is NOT in spec(even a slight bit) CHANGE IT! Good luck!
LOL! It makes me wanna remove the seat and check if there is sth there jaja Will do that PG check too..
Sounds like an easy check on the PG. I can tell you I had the same issue on the BMW. All gears, but worse the higher up I went. It was an RPM issue. Ran great outside of a certain RPM. A bad ET will cause rich midrange. It's cheap and sorta easy to fix.
Usually when the bike hesitates to pull around the mid area the culprit would be a clogged up venturi jet. You'll need to remove it and get yourself some fine steel piece of wire and run it through the tiny holes on the body of that thing until all gunk's been removed.
Thanks for reply. Also wanted to add to that it works weak on 2000RPM when idling but after 20 - 30 minutes of riding RPM's go down to 1500-1600 and it works well after that. But still something weird is going on here. I will post when I find a clue
So last weekend I tore the carb apart and reached the emulsion tube.. I have a super-tiny drill that I used very gently to clean the little holes.. not much too clean though... I also left aside that plastic cap that goes mounted on the main jet, just in case. Cleaned the rest a little bit, and mounted the carb again. I must say I can feel an improvement on performance but it`s still not fixed. Now, it will not jerk as before, but it still stumbles before I get past 5k revs. Also noticed that it does it when I make a rapid acceleration, but If I go up in revs gently, it will run fine-ish.. I guess I´ll go for the CDI swap test and the pulse generator check. Can I do the PG check with a multimeter? any specs?
The plastic cap is a 'splash guard'.....basically when you are riding hard, that keeps a fuel supply 'pooled' around the main jet.. Still thinking that you must have a 'blocked airway'... (where it's blocked, and with what, i don't know) (mine also would slowly accelerate, decently...but when ripping open the throttle, it would buck, miss and jerk) It's just TOO ODD that i blocked my airway(accidentally) and had the EXACT same symptoms... PG check: 290Ω - 360Ω at 68°F(20°C) use a multimeter Did you open the airbox? take out the air filter? check behind it? check in front of the carb inlet? Did you replace the spark plug with a new one? I replaced my original CR9-eh9 with a CR9-EhIX9... runs WAY better...cleaner response, much better 'burn', improved throttle response..
Hi everyone! Has anyone replaced rear shocks on your AX/NXs with newly manufactured ones? I'm considering this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-NX250...Parts_Accessories&hash=item4cfa6e47f6&vxp=mtr Also looking at this one: http://www.hagon-shocks.co.uk/catalog/partdetail.aspx?PartNo=M61015H , - they have both adjustable and non-adjustable versions. I'm about 220 lbs (105 kg), and on my AX-1 there are stickers for tire pressure that specify "driver (65 kg) - 2 atm, driver+passenger (130 kg) -2,25 atm" or something like that. Suppose the rear suspension feels weak because I'm almost as heavy as Japanese 2-up :) - so thinking about getting a harder spring, and maybe even tuneable shock. (compression, rebound etc). Any experience or ideas? I've read about adapting some other bikes' shocks, but I'd rather use a screw-in replacement than a saw- and hack- in :) Thanks!
So the better question is, did it look worn? Any place the needle can contact can and will wear. I don't remember what mine looked like exactly when I tore it out, but any ovaling of the main upper orifice will effectively change the taper of the needle at given points. I don't know much about the CDI on the NX but it seems to be fuel influenced to me rather than spark. The problem being mid throttle and specific RPM range is very carb specific. Again, I don't know the NX carba s well as others, but the needle taper, throttle cutaway, and the emulsion tube are directly responsible for mid throttle response. If you have done a thorough cleaning of all the little holes in the carb, it leaves only a few things. The emulsion tube needs to be examined with a magnifying glass quite often to see ovaling of the top orifice. One other possibility of your stumble is the accelerator pump. Mine is a bit hyperactive or hypoactive. I am not sure but under a throttle whack it does not do as it should. It does work better under a hard roll on. The accelerator pump on the NX is crude with no good adjustments that I could find. I wonder what air tube is open and active with a 1/3 or larger throttle opening? Again, I don't know the NX carb intimately. I cleaned mine super well, inspected all the jets, fixed the accelerator pump, and the needle and put her together. That fixed almost all my woes.
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Sorry, but it will not leave enough room for safe riding... It will physically fit with barely millimeters to spare.. Not a good idea... $.02
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:AllowPNG/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--> That’ll work But the XR rim is way too narrow (2.15'') for a 130/70-17 – you need at least a 3.50'' rim. 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