2013 Klim Adventure Rally 2 / Adventure Air

I wasn't aware that Motoport's Marathon liner was designed to be worn over jacket? I thought they were the same as all the other MP liners, meant to be worn under the jacket. The Ultra I had certainly couldn't work that way, but that was a few years back.

Damn! I thought maybe there was an updated system available

It was in no way my intention to "jump in a negative fashion", but I needed to point out an inaccuracy in your stated facts (that this concept is invented by Klim. Maybe it wouldn't have been necessary to mention the name of another product that did it before). The rest of the info mentioned by me was at your express request. It's a bit strange that you requested the info that you want now erased and consider to be negative interference.
As can be seen from some previous posts, I am quite interested in the products themselves and I actually think the Air would be a great product. Original, however, it is not, and it's not right to present it as such.

My apologies Brian. certainly meant no disrespect. I forgot about this thread. The suit is of interest, and it popped up since i'm subscribed to this thread.

Oh, and I have no alliances or agenda other than learning about new gear. Not sure if that was meant for me...

Best

Yes, that is correct.

What I heard about the integration with the outer layer was innovative. Just the act of using stretch Gore in our industry is new, as far as I know. The base is admittedly not, but the combination is.

A packable stretch GTX shell would be an innovative piece. I also agree that the execution makes or breaks the piece.

I do not know the Stadler suit. The TT suit is really cool. As everything they do. Would be great of someone posted pics of it, as I would like to compare them here (but it would be awesome if they were NOT from another retailers site....).

Motoport gets credit for being the first to use the Shoeller fabric on a suit, but their WP solution is not innovative IMO. I do admire Wayne for sticking to a business model based on good product.


BP

Well said!

I'm sure the product is great and I trust Klim on this.
Making a ProShell jacket is nothing original, but that doesn't make the BadlandsPro less of an excellent jacket.
As you say, the implementation is what it counts, and with the Air Klim are doing their own (usually excellent) implementation of a recent, emerging trend in clothing.

While their implementation might be considered innovative, IMO, what made your post a bit uneasy for me to read was that it seemed to suggest they are the first to arrive to market with such an idea, which implies that you can't find something similar anywhere else.

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Dragos

Oops, my bad. Sorry. I too was subscribed and got interested when it popped up again, forgetting where the post was and it's origin. No malice intended

The release date of the new Adventure Rally 2 / Adventure Air is March 1st.

I could not wait anymore and bought Rukka. I am a Klim fan boy too :)


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Sooner actually.....we are taking preorders now.

BP

Did they change anything up since the last Time they where suppose to come out? Got pics

Here is a link to some photos:

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and here are some videos:


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BP

+1 for any new/changed details. Great to see this coming to market!

BP, you might want to change your phone number. I plan on calling every day to ask, "ARE THEY HERE YET??"

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=23252840#post23252840

Here ya go:

Ugh... Still have a chance to return my Rukka Airvision. I want to see the liner if anyone can show that yet?

Well, the Overland suit is out. Hope this means the Air is coming very soon.

http://www.klim.com/news/index.ssp?...7287797#Klim-Overland-Suit-Easy-But-Technical