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Old 10-24-2005, 05:14 AM   #1
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My battery is goosed, instead of getting one under warranty which will mean the crappy Yuassa that seems to fail on a regular basis, I intend to upgrade to a Gel unit or some such, any recommendations?
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Old 10-24-2005, 01:15 PM   #2
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Come on, some of you must have a battery recomendation, I was not sure if I should go with a Westco gel or a Sprint lead acid.
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:02 PM   #3
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Come on, some of you must have a battery recomendation, I was not sure if I should go with a Westco gel or a Sprint lead acid.
If your so anti-battery, change the charging system, get a big capacitor, and kick away!

Um, anyways, you had problems with the standard battery?
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:09 PM   #4
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Nearly all the motorcycle batteries sold today are AGM - sealed lead-acid Absorbed Gas Mat batteries. I doubt you can even find true "gel" battery for the Adv. They're generally considered better than gels and have the same property of being sealed and having no lliquid electolyte - the lead-acid solution is absorbed in the gas mattes. So whether you got Yuasa, WestCo, Excide, etc. is not going to make any difference in the battery type - it will no doubt be an AGM.

Some folks think Yuasa's are worth the extra $$$.

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Old 10-24-2005, 03:26 PM   #5
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If your so anti-battery, change the charging system, get a big capacitor, and kick away!

Um, anyways, you had problems with the standard battery?
Are you PUI again?

My battery has a cell down, from hunting about on the net it appears that the Yuassa has a life span of about 10k miles, they warranty them for twelve months, Sprint offer a 24 month warranty.
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Old 10-24-2005, 03:27 PM   #6
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Are you PUI again?

My battery has a cell down, from hunting about on the net it appears that the Yuassa has a life span of about 10k miles, they warranty them for twelve months, Sprint offer a 24 month warranty.
at least you got the correct battery with your bike!

complain, complain, complain!!!
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Old 10-24-2005, 04:05 PM   #7
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Mark is pretty much right on the button Bucky.

Advanced (absorbed) Glass Mat (AGM) batteries are about as good as it gets in the size/capacity we use. So it's really a cost/availability/warranty issue for what ever is available in England.

I still have the original battery after nearly 3 years and 10K miles... but I've always put it on a battery tender if it's going to sit for more than a few days.

Now that I've said this, it's almost a certainty that it will fail completely within the next 10 minutes.
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Old 11-21-2005, 04:26 PM   #8
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My battery is goosed, instead of getting one under warranty which will mean the crappy Yuassa that seems to fail on a regular basis, I intend to upgrade to a Gel unit or some such, any recommendations?
I had one of those YTZ10S Yuasas take a sh*t on me the night before I was crossing into Mexico. The Yuasa was ~$85, this thing was $58.

The El Cheapo Non-Yuasa Replacement

By the way, the Yuasa is the same on as in the '00-'02 CBR600, so if you're jammed up, any Honda dealer will have one.
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Old 11-21-2005, 05:59 PM   #9
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I always use a Battery Tender.

1990 Honda CBR1000F: sold with original battery in 1997
1998 Honda VTR1000F: sold with original battery in 2005
1982 Porsche 911: last battery (delco) lasted 9 years
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Old 11-21-2005, 06:10 PM   #10
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i was wrenching for a friends endurance road race team last year and we bought a not oem battery for our r6 racebike and the thing spit battery acid all over the back part of the bike. really made a mess of the swing arm. turned out they are all made differently depending on the position. we bought the right battery but one that was supposed to be positioned differently.

the ktm is turned almost on its side.
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:35 AM   #11
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i was wrenching for a friends endurance road race team last year and we bought a not oem battery for our r6 racebike and the thing spit battery acid all over the back part of the bike. really made a mess of the swing arm. turned out they are all made differently depending on the position. we bought the right battery but one that was supposed to be positioned differently.

the ktm is turned almost on its side.
That's why it needs a sealed battery. The Yuassa was not designed for the KTM, it was just the right sized sealed type battery, if anything a sealed AGM battery is better because the dialectric is more stable and less prone to leakage than a totally fluid dialectric.
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That's why it needs a sealed battery. The Yuassa was not designed for the KTM, it was just the right sized sealed type battery, if anything a sealed AGM battery is better because the dialectric is more stable and less prone to leakage than a totally fluid dialectric.
this was a sealed battery. what i was saying is that sealed batteries are made for different positions.
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