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Old 08-21-2006, 09:05 AM   #1
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Engine overheating slow moving

Hi, r1200gs 2006, 700km still running it in, my first BMW motorcycle.
Traveling home I got stuck in heavy traffic, the motor overheated and low oil pressure indicator. After leaving the motorway and picking up some speed again all return to normal.
Now my question: is this normal for the GS to overheat when standing still or slow moving in heavy traffic, is this because of the air cooled motor?
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Old 08-21-2006, 09:22 AM   #2
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Hi, r1200gs 2006, 700km still running it in, my first BMW motorcycle.
Traveling home I got stuck in heavy traffic, the motor overheated and low oil pressure indicator. After leaving the motorway and picking up some speed again all return to normal.
Now my question: is this normal for the GS to overheat when standing still or slow moving in heavy traffic, is this because of the air cooled motor?
Thank, Andre
It is normal. Just learn the fine art of filtering, then explain to the police that due to the fact you have a air cooled bike, you must do this. If you can't filter then pull over and let it cool down and join traffic again. It doesn't take all that long for it to cool down. If your low oil pressure light is coming on you might want to consider a thicker viscosity oil to help maintain oil pressure.
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Old 08-08-2011, 10:55 AM   #3
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It is normal. Just learn the fine art of filtering, then explain to the police that due to the fact you have a air cooled bike, you must do this. If you can't filter then pull over and let it cool down and join traffic again. It doesn't take all that long for it to cool down. If your low oil pressure light is coming on you might want to consider a thicker viscosity oil to help maintain oil pressure.
I've done that in Maryland before and earned myself a ticket for my troubles. Maryland cops are not too keen on the idea of filtering or white lining. I'd suggest pulling over and finding some shade.
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:41 AM   #4
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I have never had my 1200GS overheat, even in standing Boston Traffic at 98 degrees (I overheated though!) I have also never had my oil warning light come on. Your bike is both air and oil cooled. These things consume vast quantities of oil when they're new. Make sure you check your oil level very frequently as you can't cool the engine oil if it doesn't have any. If it happened again, I would have the dealer make sure your oil cooler under the headlight is not blocked in any way.
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:54 AM   #5
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I have had my R1200GS in stop and go traffic in over 100 degree temperatures and the temp guage never got higher than its normal (about 1/3 of the way up) reading.
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:54 AM   #6
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I have never had my 1200GS overheat, even in standing Boston Traffic at 98 degrees (I overheated though!) I have also never had my oil warning light come on. Your bike is both air and oil cooled. These things consume vast quantities of oil when they're new. Make sure you check your oil level very frequently as you can't cool the engine oil if it doesn't have any. If it happened again, I would have the dealer make sure your oil cooler under the headlight is not blocked in any way.
Same here. Very hot days, and an hour of standing traffic, and my 12GS has not gone past 3/4 high. Just 2 bars up from normal.

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Old 08-21-2006, 10:55 AM   #7
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I'm not so sure if that is normal for the new 1200. Many have reported the 11xx's over heating but I have yet to read one report of a 1200 over heating. Myself personally I have ridden my bike through Kansas City in 110 degree heat. The traffic was stop and go for over 50 miles and it took 3 hours to cover that distance. My RID never even moved from the normal heat measurement.
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Old 08-07-2011, 10:23 PM   #8
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I'm not so sure if that is normal for the new 1200. Many have reported the 11xx's over heating but I have yet to read one report of a 1200 over heating. Myself personally I have ridden my bike through Kansas City in 110 degree heat. The traffic was stop and go for over 50 miles and it took 3 hours to cover that distance. My RID never even moved from the normal heat measurement.
I honestly don't know what to think about this. I find it inconceivable that running at such slow speed for so long in such hot weather wouldn't change the engine temperature, but this isn't the first time I've read this kind of anecdote. Personally I'd wonder if maybe the temp gauge/sensor/computer had a problem if it didn't climb at all under those conditions. Seems downright impossible, and begs the question - if that's how the cooling system was designed - to be so efficient regulating the engine temperature no matter what, then why even have a temp gauge? Seems like it would have been good enough to have no temperature indicator other than an idiot light set to come on when you're riding somewhere *really* hot (like the surface of the sun?).

I've got a 2010 R1200GSA and just got back from a week ride through BC, Alberta, Montana, Idaho and Washington - average daytime temperatures were over 30C with a high of 37C one day (that's 98F for those of you below the border :)), and here's what I've seen - as long as I run at highway speeds my bike temp gauge stays at 4 bars. If I slow down somewhat when it's that hot outside, it easily goes to 5 bars. If I'm in stop and go traffic or even have to sit through more than two lights in the city, even if the weather is cool (like 18C/65F), the gauge rapidly climbs to 6 bars.

When I first got the bike I was concerned about how quickly it would heat up in slow traffic, but I've never seen more than 6 bars (or oil temp warning light), or had any performance issues, so I stopped worrying about it. But from everything I've read in this and previous temp related threads it does seem there's a fair bit of variability with the temperature readings from one bike to the next. That's the only way I can make sense of these different experiences and am convinced this is the one time "they all do that" doesn't apply.
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Old 08-08-2011, 02:34 AM   #9
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In order to beat the heat of the day(Queensland - Australian summer) we headed off 1 hour before sunrise and after riding for a hour in hot humid sub tropical conditions in the dark, in sand, in first (2008 gs) my bike was near the top of its temp range.

I stopped for 15 minutes then started up again, this time in 2nd and moving a lot faster (as it was now light enough to see better) the bike returned to normal and did not have another problem with its temperature.
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Old 08-08-2011, 05:32 AM   #10
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Remember all, that the temp gauges on the R1200 series are not all the same. From 04-06 they have fewer bars, and IIRC there was another change later. This means 5 bars on one bike does not equate to 5 bars on another of different years.

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Old 08-15-2011, 09:45 AM   #11
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I honestly don't know what to think about this. I find it inconceivable that running at such slow speed for so long in such hot weather wouldn't change the engine temperature, but this isn't the first time I've read this kind of anecdote. Personally I'd wonder if maybe the temp gauge/sensor/computer had a problem if it didn't climb at all under those conditions. Seems downright impossible, and begs the question - if that's how the cooling system was designed - to be so efficient regulating the engine temperature no matter what, then why even have a temp gauge? Seems like it would have been good enough to have no temperature indicator other than an idiot light set to come on when you're riding somewhere *really* hot (like the surface of the sun?).

I've got a 2010 R1200GSA and just got back from a week ride through BC, Alberta, Montana, Idaho and Washington - average daytime temperatures were over 30C with a high of 37C one day (that's 98F for those of you below the border :)), and here's what I've seen - as long as I run at highway speeds my bike temp gauge stays at 4 bars. If I slow down somewhat when it's that hot outside, it easily goes to 5 bars. If I'm in stop and go traffic or even have to sit through more than two lights in the city, even if the weather is cool (like 18C/65F), the gauge rapidly climbs to 6 bars.

When I first got the bike I was concerned about how quickly it would heat up in slow traffic, but I've never seen more than 6 bars (or oil temp warning light), or had any performance issues, so I stopped worrying about it. But from everything I've read in this and previous temp related threads it does seem there's a fair bit of variability with the temperature readings from one bike to the next. That's the only way I can make sense of these different experiences and am convinced this is the one time "they all do that" doesn't apply.
For me any way the reasont he OIL thing bother me so bad is because I have had German, American and Jap cars and they have figured out how to keep the tempature guage constant in all conditions going from about 0 to 110 degrees. I don't understand why I paid $19,000 and they can't supply a product with the same reliabilty. I hate guessing if what I am seeing is going to screw up my bike.
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Old 08-15-2011, 11:18 AM   #12
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For me any way the reasont he OIL thing bother me so bad is because I have had German, American and Jap cars and they have figured out how to keep the tempature guage constant in all conditions going from about 0 to 110 degrees. I don't understand why I paid $19,000 and they can't supply a product with the same reliabilty. I hate guessing if what I am seeing is going to screw up my bike.
Your German, American and Japanese cars are all water cooled. Your motorcycle, irrespective of cost (because cost is irrelevant), is air/oil cooled.

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Old 08-21-2006, 10:55 AM   #13
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I have to agree with bobcopro on this one. It is NOT normal for a 1200GS to overheat. Even in the hottest weather and slowest traffic, I have never seen my temp guage go more than half way up. Get the bike to your dealer and have it checked out.
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Old 08-21-2006, 11:19 AM   #14
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I should have read his post better, but it was kind of hard since the lettering was in black. Since I have a 1150 GS I assumed he had one to. (Being the better model and all that).
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