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Old 07-26-2008, 09:13 PM   #1
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BMW 800 GS vs the KTM 990 S

My buddies just bought 2 of the 990's and I was wondering what the competition is...

We do a lot of dirt with the pavement simply being a means to get to the next dirt road...

I saw the BMW 800 GS and was wondering if it is as capable off road.

I spent all last week keeping up with these guys on my minimally street legal CRF 450X... great in the dirt... but lousy on those long loops.

So... one vs. the other... how do the BMW's compare to the KTM's if the riding is mostly off road???
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:25 PM   #2
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short answer - it depends

I think the F800GS would do very well on light to medium difficulty dirt. It is lighter than the 990S, but gives up some suspension proficiency. Not as powerful, but no shortage of power; and of course, great for touring.

Beyond that, I suppose it is preference and riding style.
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Old 07-27-2008, 02:02 AM   #3
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F800 vs 990

I tested these two back to back a couple of weekends ago, on road and off road. My last bike was an XRV Africa Twin (Brits for you) so both bikes were going to be more powerful and better handling. The KTM feels like an overweight 'crosser offroad and a supermoto on road. The BMW feels very firm on road, like a normal roadbike with extra ground clearance, and still like a roadbike offroad. Even on road tyres, the KTM felt ready for dirt, the BMW just didn't. Both have razor sharp throttle response but the BMW was worse, especially the engine braking. They were both comfortable and the finish better on the BMW.

I liked both but I'm now in the market for a KTM 990S (no ABS please)
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Old 07-27-2008, 03:28 AM   #4
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Just to confirm, was it the 800GS or the 650GS with the 800 c.c. twin motor? There is a performance difference.
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:13 AM   #5
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I tested these two back to back a couple of weekends ago, on road and off road. My last bike was an XRV Africa Twin (Brits for you) so both bikes were going to be more powerful and better handling. The KTM feels like an overweight 'crosser offroad and a supermoto on road. The BMW feels very firm on road, like a normal roadbike with extra ground clearance, and still like a roadbike offroad. Even on road tyres, the KTM felt ready for dirt, the BMW just didn't. Both have razor sharp throttle response but the BMW was worse, especially the engine braking. They were both comfortable and the finish better on the BMW.

I liked both but I'm now in the market for a KTM 990S (no ABS please)
Nice review. Since off road bikes push the limits of suspension travel and power/weight, what was wrong with the BMW? What made it feel like a road bike?

I've owned a KTM950 (great bike but unreliable). It was heavy but had great suspension.
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:27 AM   #6
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Moved to Beasts. F800GS threads reside in Beasts, not GSpot, as per the posted rules. GSpot is for the Boxer GS's.
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Old 07-27-2008, 07:30 AM   #7
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Will it fall down someday?

The clincher for me was the KTM is apparently DESIGNED to fall down once in a while, the 1200 GS's opposed twin cylinders look very exposed indeed, way more $ than the 990 ADV's plastic fuel tanks if..........

I suppose the 800GS twin is better......but those paved roads WANT 98 horsepower.
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Old 07-27-2008, 07:55 AM   #8
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motorcycle consumer has a great review in this months addition on the 800GS. They loved everything accept first and second gear and the 4.2-gallon tank. They stated that if alot of dirt was on the menue than switch gearing off the 650GS. I am looking at the 1200GS, 800GS, and the 990ADV as well. Luckily the 800GS is still not here, so the saving goes on. I finally watched the Long Way Down and after seeing them try and pick those monsters up, might have to keep that in mind.
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Old 07-27-2008, 08:42 AM   #9
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Does any one know who makes the supension components on the 800 GS?

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I realy would like to know so I can start planing to get it reworked.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:05 AM   #10
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Does any one know who makes the supension components on the 800 GS?

BMW
Showa- Kyaba
WP --That would be nice

Other

I realy would like to know so I can start planing to get it reworked.
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