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Old 12-07-2008, 02:07 PM   #1
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F800GS Pannier design considerations.

I’ve been obsessing over the width of pannier systems; trying to decide how important width is.
Other questions include capacity, top vs. side load, ability to remove without opening.

On my KLR I have Moto-Sport 26 L cans with overall width of 33”. I never had complaints about the width by sometimes I didn’t have enough capacity.

My KTM950 had the Gobi bags; they were 42” wide. I felt that they were pushing too much wind; I never did a serious fuel mileage test but it actually didn’t seem to affect the mileage much. They sometimes got in the way when parking.

These are the pannier system width specs I have collected for the F800GS and F650GS:
35.25” MotoSport w/26 liter cases
40.25: MotoSport w/37 liter cases
39” Caribou 35 liter cases
40” Caribou 36 liter on SW Motec EVO racks
40.1” TourTech 29+35 liter cases
40.8” TourTech 34+41 liter cases
36” HappyTrail 61 liter total, cliff cut (other sizes/widths available)
33” Jesse 8” Safari 68 liter total
37” Jesse 10” Odyssey 90 liter total
36.2” BMW Vario, collapsed, 47 liter total
40.6” BMW Vario, expanded, 67 liter total
42.5” BMW Aluminum , 82 liter total

Jesse’s are definitely the winner on liters per inch of width.

How important is width? I’d like to hear your experiences and opinions regarding pannier width, and other factors you considered in choosing. For me, price is the least important factor.

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Old 12-07-2008, 02:20 PM   #2
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Metal Mule system for the F8 seems to be pretty narrow also.....

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=413009
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Old 12-07-2008, 05:26 PM   #3
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I've got the 36L Caribous mounted to EVO racks on my F800, and I was still able to comfortably lane split when I was down in California over the Thanksgiving holiday. Even running between two big rigs in the rain wasn't difficult. FWIW.

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Old 12-07-2008, 05:47 PM   #4
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Good stuff

Ben,
I have the 8" Jesses on order for my F8. My concern is that I may not enough capacity but I also want to keep the overall width as narrow as possible for a TAT trip I have planned.

I'm glad you started this thread. Its interesting to see the dimensions and liters per inch compared side by side. The responces should be interesting.
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:45 AM   #5
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Very nice summary... so now I suggest a punishment

Did you happen to collect the prices also?

Thanks if you did & can post!
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Old 12-08-2008, 08:16 AM   #6
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Did you happen to collect the prices also?
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May as well add the respective weights, including racks, as well. That'd be service!
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:28 AM   #7
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Very nice summary... so now I suggest a punishment

Did you happen to collect the prices also?

Thanks if you did & can post!
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Ben,
I have the 8" Jesses on order for my F8. My concern is that I may not enough capacity but I also want to keep the overall width as narrow as possible for a TAT trip I have planned.

I'm glad you started this thread. Its interesting to see the dimensions and liters per inch compared side by side. The responces should be interesting.
So what is your experience. I have the same questions. I just bought the bike, need luggage bad. Plan to buy Jesse Bags, Should I go with the bigguns or the others that look so much better. Note to Self: I tend to over pack in an obscene way, bad, bad, me.
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Anyone out there using the Wolfman Dry Saddlebags. Interested to hear your thoughts.
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:10 AM   #10
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How important is width? I’d like to hear your experiences and opinions regarding pannier width, and other factors you considered in choosing.
How often do you ride in tight woods?

I don't like my bags to stick out further than the handlebars so I can use them as a guide. If I'm on a trail so tight that I have to turn the bars to fit between trees, I know I'll have to probably walk the bike thru, leaning hard to clear the bags.

My considerations for bags on a street bike have a different set of priorities, concerning size, wieght, durability etc. How do you plan on using yours?
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Old 02-01-2009, 02:56 PM   #11
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BMW "Adventure" aluminum panniers for 800GS

Great thread! I thought I'd add my photos of recently purchased aluminum adventure panniers. Yes they are expensive, but they are really cool. Even though they are wide, in reality it's only a difference of a few inches between all panniers. The height is an important factor to me for adventure riding. I don't want my feet getting caught while paddling. The Jesse's are a nice bag, but I completely trashed mine on a 650GS single on the continental divide 2 years ago. Luckily I was unscathed, but the Jesse's were essentially irreparable.

My guess at volume on the 800GS panniers is that they are a few liters smaller than the 12GS ADV version because of some extra cutout on the tank fill side. But the difference isn't huge, maybe 5 liters? Either way they are substantially larger than the vario's and the mount is much nicer. Total install tie on these is about 45 minutes (really, no kidding). That included removing my tail safe. And the TT aluminum rack still works. In my haste I didn't weigh everything, but the cans are really light (probably lighter than the varios and I'm sure lighter than the Jesse's. The rack is pretty heavy. I'm pairing mine with my trust tailsafe. I use the tailsafe only for commuting and will use the big cans for shopping and trips. My 800GS is also my daily commuter.

One big advantage of the BMW panniers that I haven't seen mentioned is same key. I like having one key for my luggage and ignition. It just makes life easier to have fewer keys to muck with. I also think the 22+ inches of clearance (unladen bike/bags, and off center stand) is an advantage over the Jesse's. But the decision was tough for me. The same key system and ease of taking the cans on and off pushed the decision toward this system for me.




























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Old 02-01-2009, 04:50 PM   #12
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Very nice. Definitely looks the cats pajamas.
By the by, where did you get that nifty little moto dude sticker? Looks a slight bit better than the ADV Dude sticker guy...
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Old 02-01-2009, 10:05 PM   #13
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Very nice. Definitely looks the cats pajamas.
By the by, where did you get that nifty little moto dude sticker? Looks a slight bit better than the ADV Dude sticker guy...
The moto dude is from my local dealer (AS Cycles in Roseville, CA). $5/pair. It was the only GS version I could find on the rack and it said it's an 11GSA. Not sure if they have more.
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:02 AM   #14
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New panniers from Touratech:



There's lots of bits and pieces to attach to them.
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:31 AM   #15
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Has anyone seen the price for the new TT Pro-panniers?

Probably not cheaper than the "original" Zega...
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