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Old 02-14-2009, 09:25 AM   #1
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Spare relays for long trip

I am in the process of re-stocking our spares and was wondering which relays on an 1100gs can fail and cause a trip to come to a halt?
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Old 02-14-2009, 09:31 AM   #2
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Assuming it's the same as the 1150, all the relays are of the same type except for the ABS relay.

I suggest bringing a spare of the common kind and not worrying about the ABS relay since it's not critical.
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Old 02-14-2009, 09:47 AM   #3
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Has anybody had a relay fail? I don't think I have ever heard of that happening.
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Old 02-14-2009, 10:26 AM   #4
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Has anybody had a relay fail? I don't think I have ever heard of that happening.
i've had two fail. they were triggering hid driving lights and they had water damage after either riding in rain or bike sitting in rain. it probably wasn't from washing because it's only washed once or twice a year and i don't soak it like it would be soaked from rain.

the relay was under the seat and i re-oriented it so it's facing down and i haven't had a problem again but i'm sure moisture could do it.
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I read somewhere (but cannot remember where) that the starter relay can fail and that there is a relay for the fuel pump which may cause problems. But when I checked on realoem I only found a part number for the starter relay and there seems to be nothing specific for a fuel pump relay.
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Old 02-14-2009, 01:03 PM   #6
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Has anybody had a relay fail? I don't think I have ever heard of that happening.
The load relief relay eventually becomes erratic on high mileage machines. I did an autopsy on my failed one and found the main contact eroded away (which i what I would expect for that application). It operates everytime the starter is called to run and carries a fair amount of current. Carry a spare and you will never have a problem - remember Murphy's law?
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Old 02-15-2009, 06:06 AM   #7
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Alright guys, thanks for the responses. I'll probably pick up a couple of spare relays just in case.
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Old 02-16-2009, 06:21 AM   #8
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The load relief relay eventually becomes erratic on high mileage machines.
This happened to mine at 60k. The most notable symptom was that the headlight would occasionally stay on after I'd switched off the bike.

Seeing that a relay weighs less than 10 g, you may as well bring one.
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Old 02-15-2009, 08:40 AM   #9
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Has anybody had a relay fail? I don't think I have ever heard of that happening.
Just had relay fail on my '04 GSA w/26K - happened after N.S. trip.... rain, rain, rain. FWIW, local dealer said it's not uncommon.
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Old 02-15-2009, 10:41 PM   #10
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nothing failed yet after 322,000km. A long time ago had the drivelight relay stick on for a bit, but removed it, gave it a couple of taps and was good to go again - happens when was running 330W on high beam.

Personally I wouldnt bother carrying a spare. If in the very unlikely event one failed, it may be due to some other problem causing it. Carry a compact digital multimeter (about the size of a packet of cigaretes). Relays can be got just about anywhere, and if not the correct fit, running some jumpers temporarilly will do the trick.

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Old 02-16-2009, 09:12 AM   #11
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nothing failed yet after 322,000km. A long time ago had the drivelight relay stick on for a bit, but removed it, gave it a couple of taps and was good to go again - happens when was running 330W on high beam.

Personally I wouldnt bother carrying a spare. If in the very unlikely event one failed, it may be due to some other problem causing it. Carry a compact digital multimeter (about the size of a packet of cigaretes). Relays can be got just about anywhere, and if not the correct fit, running some jumpers temporarilly will do the trick.

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I had a cheap radio shack relay on my fog lights. It worked fine for the entire ride to Ushuaia, and then back in Wisconsin a few weeks after I got back, we had torrential rains and it got waterlogged and quit. Otherwise, the jumper-cable trick would work for your starter.

You, Brian, are becoming a master BMW mechanic. I have complete confidence that if you had a failed relay, you'd either do a field repair that MacGyver would envy, or you'd find some other bike/vehicle to canabalize.

If I was you riding your bike by now I would probably not be sleeping at all, and for emergency, I'd probably have an entire spare bike in one of my side cases.
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nothing failed yet after 322,000km. A long time ago had the drivelight relay stick on for a bit, but removed it, gave it a couple of taps and was good to go again - happens when was running 330W on high beam.

Personally I wouldnt bother carrying a spare. If in the very unlikely event one failed, it may be due to some other problem causing it. Carry a compact digital multimeter (about the size of a packet of cigaretes). Relays can be got just about anywhere, and if not the correct fit, running some jumpers temporarilly will do the trick.

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For a less than $20 you can buy the correct relay (about the size of an ice cube and easily packs in the fuse enclosure)
Are you saying you are willing to dick around in the dark with jumpers & connectors after having to find something that might work in some nowhere town where nothing is open on Sundays..........I don't get the logic
My riding time is worth more than that.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:51 AM   #13
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Has anybody had a relay fail? I don't think I have ever heard of that happening.
Brian and Marie just finished an epic ride from Canada to Argentina. They just spent a month on a ship sailing with their bike from Argentina to Europe. Now they're getting ready to ride from Europe to India.

They started with an 1100GS, and they're riding an 1100GS now, but so many parts have been replaced that it's hardly the same bike!

As for setting up a tent and waiting for parts, I think they've done that already... in Central America, Colombia, Mendoza, and Buenos Aires.
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