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Old 03-08-2009, 10:58 AM   #1
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R80 G/S won't turn over, tranny issue??

I tried to start the G/S today and the starter fails to turn over the motor. also the kick starter seems to be locked up as it seems to be in a bind. also when putting the bike in gear and pulling the plugs I am unable to turn the motor by the wheel.

Any ideas as what my problem is??
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Old 03-08-2009, 11:16 AM   #2
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Hopefully not a seized engine or jammed tranny. How about the starter being stuck engaged with the flywheel? If the starter jammed out, it could cause it (and the least expensive to fix).

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Old 03-08-2009, 11:26 AM   #3
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good point. most simple thing to check is the starter. pull the seat and the tank. take a 5mm allens and pull the starter cover. I can't remember if you can actually see where it engages. If not, you may just want to pull the starter altogether--still not a big job.

To find out if it's the engine or the gearbox. pull the gearbox back like you were doing a spline lube--enough so that the splines are out of the clutch. try to spin the gearbox with the kickstart and try to spin the engine using a 6mm allens in the nose of the crank behind the alternator cover.

I'm eager to find out what's the dealieyo.
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Old 03-08-2009, 11:47 AM   #4
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good point. most simple thing to check is the starter. pull the seat and the tank. take a 5mm allens and pull the starter cover. I can't remember if you can actually see where it engages. If not, you may just want to pull the starter altogether--still not a big job.

To find out if it's the engine or the gearbox. pull the gearbox back like you were doing a spline lube--enough so that the splines are out of the clutch. try to spin the gearbox with the kickstart and try to spin the engine using a 6mm allens in the nose of the crank behind the alternator cover.

I'm eager to find out what's the dealieyo.
Just pull in the clutch lever to determine if it's the trans or the engine. no need to pull the box.
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Old 03-08-2009, 11:53 AM   #5
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Just pull in the clutch lever to determine if it's the trans or the engine. no need to pull the box.
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Old 03-08-2009, 12:09 PM   #6
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oh yeah....the clutch.......to be fair, I've pulled my gearbox so many times I don't even think about it. Kinda like getting on the highway that you take to work but you're actually going someplace else--if you're not paying attention you end up in the parking lot at your job wondering how you got there.
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Old 03-08-2009, 04:31 PM   #7
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Yes all the teeth to the starter are present.

This is what the remains of the metal look like, I just don't know what it's off of???????








Yes it is from the Bendix, available from motor bins for $25 vs 102 in the states, I wonder if a rebuilder can put it on for me, better than what a complete unit would be. Just got to figure out how to get the old one off the ammeture.
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Old 03-08-2009, 04:38 PM   #8
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Looks like a flat washer.
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Yes all the teeth to the starter are present.

This is what the remains of the metal look like, I just don't know what it if off of???????




It looks like the back side of the bendix gear, in the picture of the starter previously, the bendix appears to be in the out/engaged position. it's not supposed to when not working.
if that picture of the washer like thing is what I think it is, the starter bendix has committed suicide.
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Old 03-08-2009, 05:21 PM   #10
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Which Piece?

Wirewrkr:

Which piece has fallen off in this diagram?



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Old 03-08-2009, 05:39 PM   #11
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See post #12, part of #3 in your diagram. I'm going to order a new bendix, brushes, and parts kit from Motorbins, and fix it my self.
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:05 PM   #12
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You have a Bosch, and that diagram is for a Valeo.
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:25 PM   #13
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You have a Bosch, and that diagram is for a Valeo.
Anton: Yes. I posted the picture for my 93 GS that has a Valeo I imagine. He didn't state what year his G/S was but it should look like this then?

Would it be part #19?



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