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Old 11-13-2009, 03:24 PM   #1
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R1100GS: Anyone w/ dual or twin headlight?

Okay, I've checked the search and had no luck, so I am starting a post asking anyone with an R1100GS that has converted to a twin or dual headlight to chime in.

Which kind do you have, do you like it and does it put out any better light than the original bus-type rectangular headlight? Here are some options I know of:

Touratech - I believe they have three types, two with projector bulbs, although in one you have to remove your dash and replace with theirs or something similar. I really don't want to do that. The other twin projector one has smaller light pods. I think the another one they offer is one HID projector and one Xenon, this I find is most interesting, but definately not cheap.

Wunderlich did offer a dual headlight kit, not sure they still have it.

A seller in Taiwan was selling his version of the dual projector headlight on eBay, but haven's seen one posted lately. It looked a lot like the TT unit and well made. I bought one, but needed to raise some cash and sold it before I ever had it hooked up.

Something homemade?

I'd like to know people's opinions who really have made the switch and wheather they think it worth it. The TT units are quite pricey (what's new huh?) and I'm sure Wunderlich won't be giving them away either. Anyway show and tell time.

Thanks in advance for anyone's response who has real world experience with this modification.

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Old 11-13-2009, 05:30 PM   #2
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:15 PM   #3
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Looks interesting, but no information on whether it improves things, where you got them or if you made yourself from parts off another bike. Gary
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Old 11-13-2009, 10:35 PM   #4
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I have the Touratech dual DE headlights. They're OK with the stock halogen H3s and are VERY nice if you convert them to HID (3200K low beam, 4300K high beam). The issue with them is that light up in front of you quite well, but the ditches are dark. That was solved with a Hella micro DE fog light with a 4300K HID kit installed. Totally awesome combo.


TT Dual DE Lights with Hasenwerk light grille


4300K HID high beam on left, 3200K HID low beam on right
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Old 11-14-2009, 03:29 AM   #5
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I got hold of a set of the Touratech ones which had some glass reflectors and lenses fitted, they were marked Stanley so must have come from something Japanese, I was hoping to convert them to HID but there was no space in the headlight shell for the bits that hang off the burners, I only rode in the dark with them once, thank heavens I had the FF50s or it would have taken forever to get home, I Ebayed them and got the stock bus headlight with my HID back on pretty quick.
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Old 11-14-2009, 01:44 PM   #6
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I have the Touratech dual DE headlights. They're OK with the stock halogen H3s and are VERY nice if you convert them to HID (3200K low beam, 4300K high beam). The issue with them is that light up in front of you quite well, but the ditches are dark. That was solved with a Hella micro DE fog light with a 4300K HID kit installed. Totally awesome combo.
hasenwerk - Thanks for the info and the pics. Did you get to keep your stock dash/instrument panel with this set up?

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I got hold of a set of the Touratech ones which had some glass reflectors and lenses fitted, they were marked Stanley so must have come from something Japanese, I was hoping to convert them to HID but there was no space in the headlight shell for the bits that hang off the burners, I only rode in the dark with them once, thank heavens I had the FF50s or it would have taken forever to get home, I Ebayed them and got the stock bus headlight with my HID back on pretty quick.
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Oilybimmer, thanks, I seem to get the impression that this upgrade, isn't always an upgrade. I have a set of PIAA 540s as back ups I guess if the bus headlight goes out and to use with the high beams.


Thanks everyone, and keep those comments coming.
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:49 PM   #7
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hasenwerk - Thanks for the info and the pics. Did you get to keep your stock dash/instrument panel with this set up?
Yes, the original instrument cluster is there - all works / fits like a glove!



You can just see the bracket for the lights under the panel.
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:59 PM   #8
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do you run both at the same time ?

Hi

When on High/brights - do you end up burning both the high and low beams at the same time?

Do you have any photo's of the light spread?

Thanks, Cool looking setup

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I have the Touratech dual DE headlights. They're OK with the stock halogen H3s and are VERY nice if you convert them to HID (3200K low beam, 4300K high beam). The issue with them is that light up in front of you quite well, but the ditches are dark. That was solved with a Hella micro DE fog light with a 4300K HID kit installed. Totally awesome combo.


TT Dual DE Lights with Hasenwerk light grille


4300K HID high beam on left, 3200K HID low beam on right
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Old 11-17-2009, 04:31 PM   #9
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Hi

When on High/brights - do you end up burning both the high and low beams at the same time?

Do you have any photo's of the light spread?

Thanks, Cool looking setup

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The low beam comes on with the engine via a relay triggered by the alternator "idiot" light. It is always on while the engine is running.

The high beam is triggered via the high beam circuit.

Both lights are on during high beam mode.

No photos of the light spread. I would estimate circa 30 to 35 degrees which is really not enough if you want to watch out for things in the ditch like deer or hunting for the little side road at any sort of speed. As far as throwing light down the road - WAY better than stock. I installed a single Hella Micro DE fog light and converted that to 4300K HID and it is now what I would call perfect as far as lighting up the road and ditch. I would never switch back.
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TT revamp kit.
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:12 AM   #11
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TT revamp kit.
Like the look, especially the big lenses that fill the rectangular space under the screen. Mine are nearly as large and fill most of the original area. I'm not as big a fan of the two small headlight lenses that some TT dual headlight systems have. They kind of look like something that is more homemade.

Not that homemade is necessarily bad, I've seen some great retrofits of twin headlights from something like a Honda. I hear a lot about Twin Headlight Ernie, an inmate here.
http://twinheadlighternie.smugmug.co...733093&k=UjDGU

Lonestar posted a diagram with dimensions of the Wunderlich aluminum plate that that systems dual headlights are mounted into. Someone could take this, make a plate and perhaps add their won reflectors and bulbs.

I had thought about trying my hand at using a round Honda headlight that included both high and low beams (two separate bulbs in one reflector). This one wasn't sealed beam so you could replace bulbs. I can't remember what bike/s they were off - I had all that info saved, but must have purged it from my computer because I can't locate it now. A well incorporated single old-school round headlight, with replaceable halogens would look cool too. I was thinking something sort of like this, but with the beak and original forks:

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Question paperboy...

I dont understand...so does TT have different size lenses? small and large?
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Old 04-06-2013, 02:34 PM   #13
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I dont understand...so does TT have different size lenses? small and large?
As I've said, TT only seems to sell two types of dual headlight set ups right now.

This one (http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/P...FaF_QgodSFwA6Q) with small lens projectors:



And this one which looks like it has larger lenses (http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/P...FW3ZQgodZzUAmA ) with the DE Projector on one side and Xenon HID on the other:



I believe the bottom one is the set that comes with TT Revamp fairing, as Krellheat posted above. Here's the total Revamp look, pretty cool.



In the past Touratech has had different models of Dual Headlights. Some I've seen with smaller lenses than the ones on mine. I've also read that some of the TT set ups were made with plastic lenses and had plastic reflectors. Mine are made w/ glass lenses and metal reflectors and were purchased used off eBay. I'm no expert on what other people have, just know what I've read and seen pictured on AdvRider and other sites. Things evolve, Wunderlich says their dual headlights are the third model for the R11GS.
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Old 04-06-2013, 03:14 PM   #14
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Obviously TT made changes over the years to their Dual Headlight Units.

Here's some additional TT Dual Headlight info from UKGSer, it's kind of dated, but simon thomas talks about warping parts of his TT dual unit by using higher wattage Halogens in his because his set up had plastic lenses, reflectors and other parts, whereas mine was made with metal and glass. He replaced the warped parts with Honda CBR CFR 400 parts w/ 100mm lenses.

Richie says "...word of warning though it ain't twin headlights its a single piece of glass moulded into two rounds with twin headlamps inside." That nothing like mine, definitely two separate headlights, which sounds more like Simon's.

You can read the posts here: http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44512
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Non HID alternative to the TT kit. The appear to be the same housing used in the TT kit. You would need to build a mount and support for them.
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