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Old 03-16-2010, 11:36 AM   #1
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Beware: F800gs Rims Are Junk!

So, I take my BRAND NEW (5 days old) F800GS "Dual Sport" bike on a ride down dirt roads. My buddy who was with me on his 1200GS had his daughter on the back, we WERE NOT doing anything hardcore. It was a leisurely ride enjoying the scenery of SoCal post-rain. Really taking it easy. Of course we hit some ridges and such, but we were not going fast. When I got home, I noticed that my front rim was bent away from the tire bead area about an inch. WTF! I could not believe it (still cannot). I called the dealership, "Not covered by warranty, you were off road" To which I replied, "But you market it as an off road capable bike." So, I call the actual BMW corporation (US) and get told the same thing. Huh? So a bike that is supposed to be capable of going anywhere comes with rims that cannot handle mild dirt roads?

After reading some great info here, I call Woody's. They were very nice, helpful, knowlegeable, etc, and told me that this is common on the F800GS. So, when I got home from work last night I inspected the rear rim....same issue! WTF!!!

Because the bike is absolutely USELESS to me if I cannot ride off road, I am having Woody do the Superlace/Excel rim upgrade. I can't say enough about how great Jill at Woody's has been at explaining everything to me, etc. However, I am still absolutely STUNNED that BMW can get away with this.

When I get home tonight I will post some pics (shot of bike showing it is in fact, brand new; shot of paper license plate; shot of odometer reading 500 miles; and shot of each shoddy/substandard/POS rim).

I cannot believe there has not yet been a class-action lawsuit.
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:41 AM   #2
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"I cannot believe there has not yet been a class-action lawsuit"



When are YOU going to file it?
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:45 AM   #3
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Buchanan's does nice work as well.
I would recommend you change your rim widths while you're at it.
I'm very happy I did this mod.
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Old 03-16-2010, 12:07 PM   #4
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Hey while we're on the subject of wheels and replacing them, anyone have any guidance on where I could pick up a pair of tubeless super-moto wheels as a second set?
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Old 03-16-2010, 01:06 PM   #5
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Pissed

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"I cannot believe there has not yet been a class-action lawsuit"



When are YOU going to file it?
You know.....I am just some dude in the military (and yes, I will be WIDELY spreading this issue), but I do have access to a legal service office. I am going to look into this.....what the hell!! The more I think about what I paid for the bike and how easily the wheels were damaged, the more pissed off I get.
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Old 03-16-2010, 01:57 PM   #6
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The more I think about what I paid for the bike and how easily the wheels were damaged, the more pissed off I get.
Out of curiosity, what tire pressures were you running?

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Old 03-16-2010, 02:04 PM   #7
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Its not just the rims, they don't stop there. The entire bike is a substandard piece of utter crap too. Wait, you'll see.
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:07 PM   #8
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Its not just the rims, they don't stop there. The entire bike is a substandard piece of utter crap too. Wait, you'll see.
Thanks for the informative and intelligently made post there.


There isn't a bike made that doesn't have some issues. I'm curious why you would post shit like that?
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:28 PM   #9
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Its not just the rims, they don't stop there. The entire bike is a substandard piece of utter crap too. Wait, you'll see.
He/she/it is just flaming the thread. Does that make the person a flamer?
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:04 PM   #10
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I've got about 8k on mine with a lot of off road on rocky trails around the area here. No flat spots or dents in the rim. I have heard the rims are soft and there are others who have had the same problem, so you're not alone, I'm just not one of them.


I have not heard of anyone with problems with their rear rim though.


If you do get Woody's wheels, he's probably already told you to go narrower.
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:47 AM   #11
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You know.....I am just some dude in the military (and yes, I will be WIDELY spreading this issue), but I do have access to a legal service office. I am going to look into this.....what the hell!! The more I think about what I paid for the bike and how easily the wheels were damaged, the more pissed off I get.

Obviously you did not do your research before you bought a bike. The BMW
is not a machine which is tough enough in stock form to do actual off road riding
without failures.

I have known for a long time that the newer BMWs are over-priced
and deeply flawed machines. Take a look at the fork failure thread on the 650. Take
a look at the final drive failure threads for the big GS bikes.

BMW's best days are behind them. Sell the bike and move on to a better machine, or
take personal responsibility for the choice you made and accept that the bike needs
upgrades before it will be a reliable off road machine.

By the way, good luck with attempting to bring legal action against BMW, because BMW has
deeper pockets than you do and they have repeatedly demonstrated their desire
to avoid even admitting there have been problems. That behavior alone should be enough
to cause a discerning buyer to look elsewhere.

There are other bikes which will provide very good service with much less
hassle.



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Old 09-16-2012, 09:51 AM   #12
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Obviously you did not do your research before you bought a bike.

I have known for a long time that the newer BMWs are over-rated over-priced
and deeply flawed machines. Take a look at the fork failure thread on the 650. Take
a look at the final drive failure threads for the big GS bikes.

BMW's best days are behind them. Sell the bike and move on to a better machine, or
take personal responsibility for the poor choice you made. By the way, good luck with
attempting to bring legal action against BMW. You will lose, because BMW has
deeper pockets and they have repeatedly demonstrated their desire to avoid even admitting there have been problems.

I would like to know what magical bike you are riding?

And if your having problems with BMW, may be you should check out your screen name, as with most internet problems, Rider seems to be a large contributing factor....

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Old 09-16-2012, 10:05 AM   #13
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I would like to know what magical bike you are riding?

And if your having problems with BMW, may be you should check out your screen name, as with most internet problems, Rider seems to be a large contributing factor....

Ryan

I didn't say I owned a BMW. You need to work on your reading
comprehension. BMW has had a lot of problems in recent years,
and your apparent unwillingness to believe this won't make those
problems disappear.

By the way, it's "you're", not your. You need to work on your English too.



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Old 09-16-2012, 11:40 AM   #14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by It'sNotTheBike View Post
Obviously you did not do your research before you bought a bike. The BMW
is not a machine which is tough enough in stock form to do actual off road riding
without failures.

I have known for a long time that the newer BMWs are over-priced
and deeply flawed machines. Take a look at the fork failure thread on the 650. Take
a look at the final drive failure threads for the big GS bikes.

BMW's best days are behind them. Sell the bike and move on to a better machine, or
take personal responsibility for the choice you made and accept that the bike needs
upgrades before it will be a reliable off road machine.

By the way, good luck with attempting to bring legal action against BMW, because BMW has
deeper pockets than you do and they have repeatedly demonstrated their desire
to avoid even admitting there have been problems. That behavior alone should be enough
to cause a discerning buyer to look elsewhere.

There are other bikes which will provide very good service with much less
hassle.



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Old 09-16-2012, 12:11 PM   #15
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