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Old 11-06-2010, 01:39 AM   #1
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Weatherproof USB Power Ports

Lots of discussion about USB powerports in the Gear>Equipement forum here:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...488530&page=11

We thought it was time to let all you inmates know about 3BR Powersports stuff including both 12V and USB power ports. The TAPP Lite USB port has all the extras that the others lack - strain relief at the cable exit, fully jacketed cable, easy peel and stick universal mounting bracket, fuse holder with fuse and battery ring terminals. All this adds less than the cost of a tank of gas over the "strippers".



Here's a TAPP Lite installed on a Ducati Monster (not exactly an ADV Bike but it mounts the same).



Stop by www.3brpowersports.com and have a look at the goodies.

It's a little early for this but power ports make great Christmas gifts. Low cost, easy to wrap and super useful. Keep us in mind.
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Old 11-06-2010, 02:04 AM   #2
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Looks good for us techno nuts :)

How much are they? (can you ship them to Europe?)
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Old 11-06-2010, 09:29 AM   #3
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TAPP Lite

US$32.95

We are too new to have shipped to Europe but we checked out shipping software and it's all automated so it shouldn't be a problem. The shipping weight is very low so they go US Postal Service for $3 in the states. Shouldn't be too much more to the other side of the pond.

RABBITSON - Are you up for being the test case? If so we will offer a 10% discount on a TAPP Lite and pay shipping for this test. This is a bit of a gamble for us since we don't know what the shipping cost will be but it will be worth it to get the experience.

http://www.3brpowersports.com/products_TAPP.htm

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Old 11-07-2010, 11:45 PM   #4
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Any plans to make one that can charge an iPad? You'll need to output 2.1A.
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:00 AM   #5
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Weatherproof USB Powerport

Yes. Our original TAPP was a 1.5A port. Unfortunately just as we were going to market the low cost USB power ports became available. Since TAPP is made in USA we couldn't compete on price so we pulled it back.
We are in the process of redesigning the circuit to provide the 2.1A that the Made For iPAD (MFi) spec calls for. We are hoping to have it released by January. Pricing should be less than $40. Will this work for you?
BTW this site http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4049?viewlocale=en_US indicates that 1.1A should be sufficient to charge iPAD since that is all that the high power Apple products can put out. We have a few 1.5A TAPPs from the production pilot run. They should work if you want to try one. Let me know and we can work out some Beta test pricing.

Here are some pics. Notice it is weatherproof as are all of our products.

TAPP includes mtg bracket, cable & fuse holder with fuse. The mtg bracket is simple peel & stick 3M VHB and will fit any surface from round to flat and everything in between.

TAPP mounted on my HD Road King. TAPP Pivots around its center for best cable angle.
TAPP powering my Motorla Droid (1.1A). Note that I have pivoted TAPP to point the cable forward for this pic.

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Old 11-15-2010, 08:32 AM   #6
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What about water issues when the plug is in use? Any risk of short/failure when I'm charging my ipod or running my GPS and it's raining?

Or more likely, when I'm dumping it in deep water?
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Old 09-30-2011, 08:27 PM   #7
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Haven't had a chance to investigate yet...but should get to it this weekend. I'll keep you posted.
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Old 10-01-2011, 11:52 AM   #8
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The other thing to keep in mind, RamMan's bike (DR650), like mine (KTM640A) is a dirtbike, that has been adapted to be street worthy. The 12-18AH stated is standard on large street/tour bikes. Both of our bikes run the same battery, Yuasa YTX-9BS, with an advertised 8AH! Another commonality is the 200Watt charge sys, which puts out much less than that at under 5k revs.

I had significant changes result from installing a Gel cell battery in mine and a few months ago upgraded to a best gel cell that Batteries Plus sells.
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Old 10-01-2011, 02:36 PM   #9
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Low is right...I ran some tests this morning and pulled the battery to check the amp hour rating. The TAPP lite pulls 10 mA when not connected to anything...though that's as low as my meter will read so it could have rounded up from 8mA. The Garmin nuvi 250W connected pulls 170-190mA turned on and 70-90mA turned off.

The battery is rated at 8amp-hour/10hour. I don't know what the last part means but I'll assume its just an 8amp-hour battery which gives me about 100 hours before it drains the battery with the garmin connected or 1000 hours with just the TAPP lit. These numbers also assume a fresh battery. Even with a battery double the size you would have 200 hours before my Garmin would drain the battery. Less time than that with some of the other GPSs that were tested.

None of this is a deal breaker. I'm going to put the TAPP on a relay. Shov you guys may want to consider a relay kit option for people that want plug and play.
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Old 10-02-2011, 06:32 PM   #10
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Thanks for the advice. I've been looking at the PC-8 from eastern beaver and the AP-1 from centech. Painless wiring has a fuse block like the FZ-1 that has a built in relay.
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Not sure where my problem is, but would appreciate some help!

I have your power plug tapped into the accessory port on my KTM 690. It has a 5amp fuse in the fusebox and is designed for just this! I've tried 5 different USB cables, and none of them can keep my phone charged while running a GPS app and playing music. My old generic setup worked fine.

Any ideas? I suppose its possible that the bike can't supply this power, but I have heated grips in the other accessory port, and swapped to this one and it works fine. One would think grips are pulling a lot more power than a phone!

One other thing to add-I cut the fuse/cable shorter on your USB port. Didn't think that would cause any issues since its fused in the fuse box, but thought I'd throw that out there..

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I have your power plug tapped into the accessory port on my KTM 690. It has a 5amp fuse in the fusebox and is designed for just this! I've tried 5 different USB cables, and none of them can keep my phone charged while running a GPS app and playing music. My old generic setup worked fine.

Any ideas?

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yup, we're pretty sure that your problem is related to Apple!
First, is your phone an Android device? We assume that it is.
it's a long story & I'm typing this one character at a time so I won't go into details.
What you need is one of our Red Band Smartphone charging cables. Go onto our website & checkout the description.
I'm at an event & leave Saturday for a cross country ride but if I can get to a computer I'll fill in some details.
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yup, we're pretty sure that your problem is related to Apple!
First, is your phone an Android device? We assume that it is.
it's a long story & I'm typing this one character at a time so I won't go into details.
What you need is one of our Red Band Smartphone charging cables. Go onto our website & checkout the description.
I'm at an event & leave Saturday for a cross country ride but if I can get to a computer I'll fill in some details.
Cheers
Hmm. Android phone. I'll try to rig something direct to the battery to confirm, but it seems odd that the only cable that will work is yours.
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Hmm. Android phone. I'll try to rig something direct to the battery to confirm, but it seems odd that the only cable that will work is yours.
I know it sounds pretty arrogant the but the problem exists with any Android or Windows smartphone that is plugged into a GENERIC USB charger.
OK, here goes. Android & Windows devices require shorted data pins to charge at full rate (that's the long story ).
Apple requires voltage on the data pins to charge at all.
Since manufacturers of generic chargers like us have to serve the Apple community our chargers supply those voltages.
Android & Windows see those voltages & throttle back to 500mA or less which is half rate. It is not enough to keep up with the demands of GPS so the battery dies after a while.
our Red Band Cable has shorted data pins so the Android or Windows device thinks it is plugged into the FACTORY charger.
Hope this synopsis helps cuz my typing finger is worn out
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I know it sounds pretty arrogant the but the problem exists with any Android or Windows smartphone that is plugged into a GENERIC USB charger.
OK, here goes. Android & Windows devices require shorted data pins to charge at full rate (that's the long story ).
Apple requires voltage on the data pins to charge at all.
Since manufacturers of generic chargers like us have to serve the Apple community our chargers supply those voltages.
Android & Windows see those voltages & throttle back to 500mA or less which is half rate. It is not enough to keep up with the demands of GPS so the battery dies after a while.
our Red Band Cable has shorted data pins so the Android or Windows device thinks it is plugged into the FACTORY charger.
Hope this synopsis helps cuz my typing finger is worn out
Alright. That makes sense. Now for the next issue. The case I use won't accept a cable at a right angle. It looks like all of yours are. Do you make one that isn't? I'm not happy about the case, so I might switch it anyway..
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