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Old 06-29-2011, 11:11 AM   #1
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Summer Ride in Indian Country

As 2011 progressed reasons for riding around the southwest began piling up. First, I had been at home for a while and needed to get out in the world. Second, there was a motorcyle get-together brewing in mid June in southwest Co. Third, AAA maps describes Indian country as a swath of the southwest thru Ax,Ut,NM, and Co where interesting thing to see abound.

I'd been there several times, but there was much that I hadn't seen. I completed 3 weeks and 3000 miles in IC. I saw a lot....and as it's big country, there is still enough left for another trip next year....and probably another and then another.

As many of you know I live in southern Ca a little north of San Diego. The equipment remains the same. I'd be taking the DS bike with me as well.
From Riding SM4C, Sabmag

That's an 1100cc Honda doing the heavy lifting, and the DR350 is for the light work. Primarily this was a camping trip with light use of a motel here and there.
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The trailer is homebuilt from V65 Sabre trailing arms, and it uses disk brakes from the same bike in a surge brake fashion. The trailer tongue compresses and applies the brake.
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Disk brake
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I've got 3 years and about 15000 miles on this trailer setup towing. I consider it pretty well tested by now. I used a Sabre fork for the sliding tongue.
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.......anyway, enough about the rig....let me tel you about the ride. It began on June the second......

I planned for three weeks on the road. I'm retired and have retired riding buddies, so I asked several of them if they wanted to join me for some or all of the trip. I got a few takers....4 to be exact.

First was Doug who rides an ST1100, a man I've known since High school. Another High school buddy, Arnold rides another V65 Sabre like mine, and Mike Daugherty on another V65, and the last was 'Nip' Morgan on a Harley.

We planned a meetup at Chaparral Motorcycles in San Bernadino Ca as that was central to the first four riders, then we would meet Nip at Tecopa Hot Springs as he'd be coming from Lone Pine, Ca.

I've had good memories of Tecopa from ride there over the last 10 years. The Hot springs there used to be free and camping across the street was inexpensive.

We made the connection in Tecopa after a nice run from Chaparral. The weather was 90 degrees at the worst...as good as could be expected for early June.
The boys in the shade at Tecopa...
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...and Me
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Arnold left, Doug right...
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They even had a horseshoe pit with Horseshoes there under that tree. Mike taught me that it's a younger mans game...
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This is Tecopa vibrant down town today
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Post office next door...
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Some of the building burned a few years ago...and the rest was abandoned to go to oblivion.
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Nip showed up with info that the inexpensive camp ground was $16 per person and the free hot springs was now $7.50 each. Nothing good lasts forever. Nip had also stopped a few miles away in Shoshone and found us a campsite for 30 bucks total that included a swimming pool with warm water. We went for that.
But before we went to The Shoshone campground we tooka 10 mile ride out to China Ranch.
A bit of dirt road was involved...sort of an adventure ride....about 3 miles of dirt, but good dirt.
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China Ranch started in the days of the early mines in Death Valley supplying geen foods to the miners as there was a fresh water. Today it's a tourist destination owned by one of Nevada's political families. The story goes that the chinaman who started the place just vanished one day, and then the Nevada boys owned it.
They have a museum there and gift shop as well as an ice cream counter where Date Shakes are their specialty.
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I don't know why I don't have a picture of the Gift shop and relics around the place.
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The original ranch house is in those trees
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Arnold got himself in some soft sand at one point, and made a 5 mph drop of his Faired Sabre. It's a rat bike so the loss of a turn signal didn't phase him. No picture....
After the Date Shake we went to the campsite in Shoshone. Pretty nice and with grass to camp on. There were no tents as the air was clean and no rain in sight. That's my finger in the picture.
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The date shake late in the afternoon covered my evening meal requirement. A couple of the boys went to Shoshone for a burger. I blew up my red air mattress with my air pump (DR350). Any small necked bottle (like a gas additive) will do as an adapter. If 'pump up' is started with a cold bike no melting follows.
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Evening was passed with a dip in the 95 degree pool and by solving world problems....
In the morning as we went thru Shoshone we noted the Sheriff station. Love a small town.
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Shoshone also has a Cafe/bar and motel as well as a gas station and Post office.
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We'd be in Fredonia that evening posed to see the north Rim of the Grand Canyon the next day.............I'd never been there. I'd been seeing Toroweap on maps for year. This would be the year that the mystery destination would be disclosed.

More soon..........
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Old 06-29-2011, 12:37 PM   #2
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Pretty clever on the trailer there, bub.
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Old 06-29-2011, 05:06 PM   #3
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Pretty clever on the trailer there, bub.
SR, BT and FHR........
I wish I could say that that came easy to me, guys. I cogitated for a few years as to whether the concept was worth putting the effort into to see if it would fly...or be too dangerous....or take too much power to be practical.

I drove it for one trip without brakes. It needs the brakes as the whole trailer and bike weigh a little over 500lbs.
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Old 06-29-2011, 06:00 PM   #4
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The first streetbike I ever rode was my Dad's 82 V45 Sabre. I loved that bike, wish I still had it. Your's bring back some great memories for me, have a safe trip!
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Old 06-29-2011, 06:59 PM   #5
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What a fantastic job on the trailer. Great work and thoughts. Thanks for sharing. I'm an old drilling rig mechanic and love that stuff.
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:30 PM   #6
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The first streetbike I ever rode was my Dad's 82 V45 Sabre. I loved that bike, wish I still had it. Your's bring back some great memories for me, have a safe trip!
Okiedoc, Achesley and of course Grafyman thankyou. You guys take a cue from Graftyman don't encourage me. The truth is that I'm out of trick.....nothing but riding and pictures from here on in.

Okiedoc, I've had my Sabre for nearly 20 years and over 200000 miles. I don't imagine that I'll ever have anything else as a steady rider.
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Old 06-30-2011, 03:14 AM   #7
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Your pictures came out real nice Pete ! Its good to see Mike , Arnold , and WSD again.
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Old 06-29-2011, 07:15 PM   #8
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On to Fredonia

We left Shoshone at about 9am heading east toward Pahrump. We figure to have breakfast there. It's only about 30 miles and we'd get some gas for good measure.

We hit the Main street in Pahrump and turned toward Vegas. I figured to find food and gas out that way. Soon we were approaching the outskirts of town without any satifaction.

One of us found a bakery where we stopped for a confab. Seems we would make do with a muffin and Nip told us there was gas in 40 miles. We all had enough to get there so we stuffed down a muffin with coffee and hit the road for Vegas.
...Outside the Bakery...the first picture of Nip, Doug on the right.
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Arnold had had a low battery yesterday at Chaparral. He check his battery terminals, and tightened them. The bike started then so he figured all was well, but this morning his battery was acting up again so he decided to pull out of the trip.....and Doug decided to go with him to make sure he got back to Los Angeles ok. That knocked us back to 3 riders.

We only had about 300 miles to cover today so we scheduled some sight seeing. We'd take the Red Rock turn off that cut back north about 10 miles from I-15 and goes thru the Red Rock State park. That's always a ride to relive no matter how often you've been there.
Pre Red Rock mtns along the way....
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I'd like to walk up everyone of those canyon....wishful thinking...
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I've skipped a few pictures, but I can't pass up this one.
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Here are the red rock of the state park. If you're in Vegas go west out Charleston Ave to see the State Park. It's only 6 pr 8 miles out there and it's worth it.
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We wanted to avoid Downtown Vegas and as we drove toward town on Charleston there is a new belt Fwy that circles the town on the west side. We took it to North Las Vegas where we would look up Scott Corsaro who works at a Dyno shop at the Las Vegas Speedway. I'd never been there either.
My GPS didn't know the beltway had been completed so it routed us thru some of North Las Vegas that we didn't need to see. But we eventually got to the Dyno shop.
I had no idea that the speedway was such a complex of speed related commercialism. On the way to the Dyno address we passed Shelby's museum and shop. Hummmm....
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I met Scott thru Scott's brother back when I was still working. The Corsaro brothers are two of the young men that give me faith that the world is in good hands for the future.
We approach the shop...
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Inside Scott gives us a tour...scott's in the foreground.
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These guys work on anything. Makes me realize how little I know about bikes. Here a Harley complete with oil drip pan
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We had quite a tour at Scott's and Nip got a quote on changing his Harley over to tapered roller bearings and a gear cam drive. I think I got that right.

So after the Dyno shop we decided to go see Shelby's museum. I like cars. Here's Mike out front
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Inside we saw this retro car.
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Here's the motor like is in that car. Imagine a motor with it's own shock absorbers. Scheesh!
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This little memento is worth big bucks as well.
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Believe me we could fill this report with Shelby stuff, but we had to get on the road. We headed north on I-15 to the Valley of Fire road and took it out toward Lake Mead and the Valley of Fire State park.
More great scenery coming up....dropping down into the park.
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There's 30 miles of Red Rocks, hieroglyphs and arches..here are a few photos.
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They built a stairway up to the glyphs
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Might be petroglyphs I can't keep them straight.
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Bikes from the stairs
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After the Valley of Fire we high tailed it back to I-15...here we approach The Virgin River Gorge north of Mesquite Nevada
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The Virgin River George is as good as it get....we see a lot of 'as good as it gets' in the next couple of weeks.
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That's Nip and Mike back there as we near the end of the gorge.
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A view of the river as we exit the gorge.
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We've screwed around and getting to Fredonia in a timely fashion is already out the window, So I called the Grand Canyon Motel where I have a room reserved to beg them for patience. They were cool with it.
Just one more gorge picture..
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We put our heads down and got down to the business of getting to Fredonia. I had 2 rooms reserved but since Doug and Arnold had crapped out I had to get them to settle for me just getting one room. They said no sweat...that they'd rent it as it was a Friday night. I've stayed there before. A single is 38 bucks. They gave us a room with three beds for 50 bucks....Way cool. and free internet with no security key.

We walked several blocks down the street for dinner which was very good. It had been a very good day traveling.

North Rim tomorrow.......
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Old 06-29-2011, 02:34 PM   #9
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OK, that right there is pretty damn cool!

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Old 06-29-2011, 03:22 PM   #10
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OK, that right there is pretty damn cool!
Don't encourage him ....

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Old 07-01-2011, 10:09 AM   #12
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Moving to the Navajo Natl Monument

Nip had come back with a story last night of spending time having lunch next to a custom bike shop. He talked to the owner for a while.
I had visions of pulling my DR's carb and going thru it again in this shops parking lot and borrowing their compressed air to blow out the passages.
To that end we went riding North on 89 Thru Kanab nearly to Glendale.....without finding said bike shop. Finally we gave up, but all was not lost. We'd just done 60 miles of new country to me while riding in perfect condition. Whats not to like about that?
Here's what we saw. You can't beat southern Utah!
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Some of those Cliff alcoves have been used..
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While we looked for the bike shop, I had been thinking about how to blow that carb out with the small electric tire pump that I carried with me, after all that thing goes to 200 lbs.
I figured that I'd buy a blow gun and a tubeless tire valve stem. I'd hook them together with a 4' piece of gas hose that I carry with me. The gas hose would be my air tank. It worked pretty good. It gave me a short blast of 50 PSI air every 10 seconds. Now I was ready for that carb problem.
Here's a picture...
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We decided to skip the bike shop since we couldn't find it. We turned around and back tracted to Fredonia and then went on toward Jacobs lake and the Navajo Bridges 89A.
Let me say that the weather on this trip had been wonderful so far. Sunshine and in the 80s at the elevations we were running around in very little wind. I hoped that the weather Gods continued along with us.
89A east of Jacobs Lake is another scenic ride down the mountain and then breaking out on the high mesa that houses the deep gorge of the Co River west of Lake Powell. The Vermilian Cliffs are spectacular on the left with wide open spaces to the right, all done in brilliant earth tones.
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We had breakfast at a place called 'Clff Dwellers'. It was a small motel and Cafe. It had been there a long time. I asked where were the cave with the Indian ruins. The joke was on me. The waitress said that there were no Indian ruins. The Cliff Dwellers were the people of the motel as they were so close to the Vermilian Cliffs out back.
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On to the Navejo Bridges and Lee's Ferry... This is the Co River Gorge that the Navajo bridges cross.
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Speaking of Lee's Ferry.....apparently Lee was kinda exiled to run the Ferry since he had massacred a bunch of Mormon men women and children, in his care, over near St George. He tried to get away with it by sticking arrows in the victim's bullet holes and blaming it on the local indians. Read more....
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.....on the way into Lee's Ferry
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We moved on across the bridge to Bitter Springs where we doubled back toward page Az.
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That took us up a 3000 ft Mtn and thru a remarkable gap.
The wind had begun to pick up about an hour ago, and was blowing 30 to 40 mph. A hard head wind will slow me down to where I can't pull sixth gear. I struggled with that for the last 2 hours....seemed like 6hrs.
To compound my problem, I'd put a car tire on my bike in order to get better tire mileage. The tire was 1.5 inches larger which weaken my bikes pull. I struggled on over to the N N Monument 100 miles away.
The NNM is 10 miles off the beaten path, and their free camping is a little know fact. Seems like the Indians like to give up rights to certain Indian ruin area so that the Federal protection will keep the treasure hunters at bay. Usually the Indians retain certain rights to the areas, and often stipulate that they maintain free camping.
Museums and scientific foundation were as bad as anyone in the past 100 years or so. They'd come in and do a bunch of collecting and take the artifact out with them to study, and then put them on display in a museum somewhere. The Indian would like to have all that stuff back.
Anyway the Indians and the feds have a tense working relationship in these areas. They're working it all out, I guess.

We got into the Visitors Center before it closed for the night. We learned that there was a walking tour in the morning to the Betatakin ruin which we signed up for. http://www.jqjacobs.net/southwest/betatakin.html

We went on to a campsite and set up for an early set up at 5pm.
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It's a pretty nice campground...bathrooms and potable water.
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We had time so we ran back the 10 miles to the intersection of 160 and picked up the makins for a Spaghetti dinner. It consisted of a lb of pasta, a pint of spaghetti sauce and a lb of frozen hamburger.
Nip found a place on his engine to put the hamburger in order to thaw it out on the way back to camp. It Thawed half of it out by the time we got to camp.
I crank up one of my Alcohol stoves to cook the Spaghetti, and another to cook the hamburger with the sauce. For a first timer, the dinner was great. Truthfully a can of Spaghetti in sause would have been as good.
We went to bed thinking about the 2 mile hike to Betatakin in the morning....
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looks like being retired is hard work, but somebody has to do it, right pedro?
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Great scenery pics Pedro! But that is one loaded V65 Sabre! WHOA!
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Old 07-01-2011, 11:54 AM   #15
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Great scenery pics Pedro! But that is one loaded V65 Sabre! WHOA!
I figure that a fat girlfriend would weigh as much, Ron....not counting the trailer's load.

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