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Old 08-07-2011, 10:28 AM   #1
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Yamaha Vino 125?

Hey, my local bike shop is selling 2009 Vino 125s for $1995. That seems like a pretty good price. Anybody have one and care to comment on it? What's the difference between it and the Zuma?

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Old 08-07-2011, 02:58 PM   #2
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OK on good roads

Howdy,

I've two years experience on scooters, so I'm no expert. I was close to making the Vino 125 my first scooter a few years ago. Instead yours truly opted for a scoot with 12 inch wheels. The Vino 125 has 10-inch wheels, so at speeds over 35 mph, it'll start to feel twitchy, less stable. That's due to the effect of Gyroscopic forces.

If you only need this scoot for 'round the neighborhood or on a college campus, it's probably a good choice. Still, with Yamaha also offering the Zuma 125 (12 inch tires), I'd look into the Zuma 125 instead-assuming you plan to commute and run errands on busy streets and spend a good bit of time over 35 mph. 12-inch tires are a bit more confidance inspiring at speed. My current scoot is the Honda Sh150i, which has 16-inch tires, btw.
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Old 08-07-2011, 03:08 PM   #3
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The Zuma's MSRP is nearly twice what he might get the Vino for. I don't think 2" worth of tire is worth 1.5k.
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Old 08-07-2011, 03:22 PM   #4
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As a former salesman at a scooter-only dealership. We took in a Vino 125 for an elderly couple. I rode it, here are my plusses: It is super low to the ground based on seat height so if you're vertically challenged it's nice. Parts and service locations are extremely abundant should something arise that's beyond your abilities.
Minus: In my opinion it felt slow. I rode back-to-back the Vino 125, and then a Genuine buddy 125. Hands down in top speed and acceleration the buddy creamed the vino without breaking a sweat. That was even with a vino past it's break in period, and a buddy fresh out of the crate.

I like the width of the floorboards on the vino for my enormous clod-hopper Doc Martens, where the buddy just felt too danged narrow for my liking.

$1999 is a heck of a deal, check out if they're going to pinch you with extreme shipping and assembly costs.

The vino is a fine bike all in all. What are your intended uses for it? I.E. what kind of roads/speeds are you looking to do?
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Old 08-08-2011, 07:11 AM   #5
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The vino is a fine bike all in all. What are your intended uses for it? I.E. what kind of roads/speeds are you looking to do?
Neighborhood trips. Nothing over 10 miles one way. I have an Elite 50 right now. It's not quite fast enough to feel safe on the 45 mph roads.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:15 PM   #6
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Neighborhood trips. Nothing over 10 miles one way. I have an Elite 50 right now. It's not quite fast enough to feel safe on the 45 mph roads.
I have a Vino. It is fine for neighbourhood trips, but it is NOT fast enough to be safe on 45mph roadways. It will go 45mph, but just barely. If you're going to do battle on the freeway, get a bike with a higher top speed.

$2000 is not a great deal. There are lots of used Vinos around here for that price.

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Old 02-23-2013, 12:00 AM   #7
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Most of the miles on my Vino were on 2 lane rural roads with speed limits up to 65 mph. You can safely ride on such roads, but you cannot ride with traffic. Think bicycle. I ride just to the inside of the solid white line to the right, and if a vehicle comes up behind me (yes you have to watch your mirrors), and there is oncoming traffic (which happens about 20% of the time on these roads) I just move across the line onto the paved shoulder. I do wear a white helmet and an orange reflective vest. Before I got into scooters, I rode pedal mopeds on the same roads, and also used to ride bicycles on them. I have never came close to getting hit.

Some think that you have to be able to maintain freeway speed and have some in reserve just to ride on the freeway. That's not the case either. I put 20,000 freeway miles on a Honda Rebel 250 that topped out at about the speed limit, with nothing in reserve, and slowed down considerably when going up even slight grades, or in headwinds. Again I dressed for visibility, stayed in the right lane, and watched my mirrors. Never had any problems. Many times I came up behind some old vehicle pulling a trailer at 50-55 mph when the speed limit was 75. I just fell in behind them, turned my headlight off, and took the opportunity to ride at a more reasonable speed for the bike.


I made 3 trips from Phoenix to San Diego and back on I-8 on my Vino 125. That's over 800 miles, with speed limits of mostly 75 mph. But it is also a mostly deserted road with mostly truck traffic, and you can see for miles ahead of you. While climbing mountains, the Vino got down to 30 mph, but I never felt like I was in any danger except from the cops.


I am planning to buy a new scooter in the next few days that will not do 75 mph. My main reason for buying it is the engine is big enough to be freeway legal. I don't plan on a lot of freeway riding, but some is unavoidable if you are actually going to get anywhere. I know it won't keep up with left lane traffic, and I will ride accordingly. Many places out west it is legal to ride bicycles on the shoulders of freeways, simply because there is no other way to get somewhere.

Now, on the urban freeways, like the 101, 202, 60, and 51 around metro Phoenix you would have to be crazy to get on one of those with anything that won't do at least 100 mph, and reach it quickly. Unlike wide open cross country interstates, traffic on these is like a stampede, 6 lanes wide bumper to bumper (think LA) there is no slow lane, and speeds vary from 0 to over 80 mph, often changing back and forth every few minutes. LOTS of rear end collisions and even pileups due to cell phone impaired drivers. I try to stay off these roads even in a car.
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Old 02-23-2013, 08:55 AM   #8
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Jerry you are a brave man! 800 miles of illegal driving!!! lol!!! The vino was a scooter I once consider, it had that vespa smell and look but made in Japan so I translated it to a more efficient and trouble free scooter. HOw ever they are not sold in Mexico so just to have it legal would be like 600-900 USD so I figure I would but a Mexican scooter and save me that money for GAs for a 2-4 years!

what scooter do want to buy now?

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Old 08-07-2011, 03:42 PM   #9
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The Vino 125 and the Zuma 125 have different engines despite their size.

Vino = Air-cooled 124cc, 4-stroke, 9.8:1 compression ratio;
Zuma = Forced Air-cooled 125cc, 4 valves, 10:1 compression ratio

Vino = Mikuni carb;
Zuma = fuel injection

I got this info straight from my Yamaha 2010 Scooter catalog brochure.

I've also read the the Vino 124cc engine is a raspy, vibey engine. Not very smooth.
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Old 08-07-2011, 06:05 PM   #10
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I've also read the the Vino 124cc engine is a raspy, vibey engine. Not very smooth.
I have a 2006 Vino 125 and it is indeed kind of a rattlebox. But it's not put your hands to sleep vibration. I ride mine all over, including 90 miles round trip to work on the back roads occasionally. My dad just bought a 2010 Honda 110 Elite and it is MUCH nicer in almost every way. Smooth, water cooled and FI. And the Vino is only a little faster on top speed. Guess I'm trying to say that the Vino isn't bad, just getting a little dated.
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Old 08-07-2011, 07:54 PM   #11
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My wife rides a Vino 125 40 miles round trip to work every day ( weather permit), and loves it. We both have our MC endorcements, and she still runs that vino. she paid $1600.00 +/- months ago, and it is an 09 mod. Keep your eye out, our dealerships out this way give some great deals if you watch for them.
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Old 08-08-2011, 11:19 AM   #12
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Don't forget the check out the Kymco Agility 125cc either. Kymco is a quality manufacturer and it's only $1799 MSRP ! It has 12" wheels too, but that makes the seat height around 31".

But if your wife wants the "classic, Roman Holiday look", check out a Kymco People 150.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:47 PM   #13
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The gas cap on the vino is behind the seat so if you you ever decide to mount a top box or just use the rear rack, you may block the gas cap. I have never ridden one but this feature would seem to be a pita if you want to carry more stuff than will fit under the seat & on the floorboards.
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Old 08-08-2011, 06:39 PM   #14
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I don't think I would worry about the 10" wheels. My wife has a cheap chinese scoot with 10" wheels and it's pretty stable at its top speed of about 55 mph. Besides, doesn't a Honda Helix only have an 11" front wheel, and 10" rear wheel? Steering geometry and wheelbase have a lot to do with stability, along with wheel size.

Before I jumped on that deal, I would investigate other scoots in the local area. Kymco, Honda, Piaggio and Genuine would make my list.
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Old 08-08-2011, 08:53 PM   #15
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I've had my Vino125 for a couple of years now, and of my 3 bikes, it is absolutely my favorite around-town errand-runner.

It's got TONS of usable space for groceries and such with the flat floorboard, plus a crate (either milk or Coke) bungeed to the rear rack. (If it'll help, I'll take a couple of pics to show how I hook the crate on so it can easily move out of the way for gas-tank access.)

It's got plenty of speed (maxes out on flat ground at about 60mph with me [at 6'2" & 195 lbs] on it) for any surface roads, and I've taken it on the highways for short 1 or 2 exit runs.
It does NOT get shaky, even at top speed...But I do try to avoid potholes with those tiny wheels!

Yamaha quality is good; I've put 7500 miles on it, and have had no problems whatsoever.

At $2000 new, as long as they don't gouge you with additional fees, i'd say it's a great deal.

If you have any specific questions, I'd be happy to try and answer to the best of my ability. Anyway, best of luck...whatever you decide to go with!
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