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Old 12-04-2011, 12:58 PM   #1
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Denver Denizens-What's the deal with E470???

I usually try to avoid the Denver traffic Cluster-F**k, but to save time on my way home from the MB500 in Woodland Park, I just let my GPS get me home via the quickest route. When it routed me onto E470, I realized there would be some kind of toll, maybe a few bucks. But after a while I hit I76, and I don't remember any Toll Plaza, except at the exits. I just figured that through traffic got a break, until I got a letter instructing me to pay $29 or face eternal damnation.
What did I miss?
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Old 12-04-2011, 01:04 PM   #2
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E470 is a toll road and it is an expensive one. They used to have toll booths where you'd stop and pay. They found that the ez-pass no stop system was cheaper so they did away with the toll booths. The ez-pass was initially for people would wanted to use the road with an account that would auto pay. The system works well enough that they don't need you to set up an account so now everyone on the road is charged without stopping (except at some of the exits.) There are signs on the road that give info but they are easy to miss.
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Old 12-04-2011, 01:24 PM   #3
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Old 12-04-2011, 01:39 PM   #4
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I think they photo your license plate and send you a bill.
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Old 12-04-2011, 01:53 PM   #5
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18.4 cents of tax/gallon just like 1994

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Old 12-04-2011, 02:15 PM   #6
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what surprised me was a toll for both my jeep and my trailer. at least the bike on the trailer didn't get billed too.....
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Old 12-04-2011, 03:17 PM   #7
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what surprised me was a toll for both my jeep and my trailer. at least the bike on the trailer didn't get billed too.....
I'm pretty sure it is per axle, hench the additional charge for the trailer.
This makes sense in the quest for more $, as a semi would get hit harder, as it tearing the raod up with more axle's, and more axle's mean more weight, in theory.
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Old 12-04-2011, 03:23 PM   #8
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I'm pretty sure it is per axle, hench the additional charge for the trailer.
This makes sense in the quest for more $, as a semi would get hit harder, as it tearing the raod up with more axle's, and more axle's mean more weight, in theory.

yeah, that's it. just never really thought about it until we got the bill. i couldn't figure out the second time i used e470, then my wife noticed the other plate number!
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Old 12-04-2011, 04:47 PM   #9
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The crappy thing is that they don't give a discount for motorcycles. I wonder if they charge a hack as a third axle.
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Old 12-04-2011, 04:53 PM   #10
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I asked one of the guys that works there why the hell it is was so stupid expensive and he said they just don't want a huge volume of traffic out there , they don't want trucks and such at all.

Small volume, huge profit, low road repairs , makes sense if you own it I guess.
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Old 12-04-2011, 03:21 PM   #11
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The toll is 20% less if you have an account and a sticker. You have to deposit $35 into the account and maintain a positive balance. It may not be worth it if you don't use it often. I am on 470 only about once a month but it has worked for me. Check it out at https://www.expresstoll.com/PayingTo...pressToll.aspx if you are interested.
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Old 12-04-2011, 07:28 PM   #12
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Sounds like it's time for some James Bond type license plate holders. Running the toll road: flip it around to display the plate numbers of your "favorite" politician.
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Old 12-05-2011, 05:38 AM   #13
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Being form "out of town" I used to use E470 a lot as it was the easy way to get were I needed to go. I didn't mind when I actually paid the person in a booth, although stopping every 5 miles to pay a toll was a bit excessive :) it still was worth the price. Last time I went through there and they went to the photo system and mailed you your toll I bet fell over for what they wanted. Glad my GPS has an option to avoid tolls.
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Old 12-05-2011, 07:42 AM   #14
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^ Well that sucks...I was hoping someone could say how it works for out of state vehicles!!!! Do they still look up your information and mail you a bill, and what reciprocation do they have if a person say in CA or FL does not pay??? (yes it is cold out and I am thinking of warm places).

The wife and I have a transponder we also get a discount per toll. Only time we use the road is to go to DIA to get people. The transponder is free, you can have up to two...they are attached to whatever vehicle you register it to, it also handles the ding to the credit card so you don't have to mess with a bill or a loss bill or worry about anything. Each month I get an email showing usage (typically says nothing).

We usually take 83 from Monument to E470...a peaceful drive.

Oh, they also have motorcycle transponders too. I agree if they charge the same for a bike as a car that is F'ed up. Ways around that too....



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Old 12-05-2011, 10:03 AM   #15
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^ Well that sucks...I was hoping someone could say how it works for out of state vehicles!!!! Do they still look up your information and mail you a bill, and what reciprocation do they have if a person say in CA or FL does not pay??? (yes it is cold out and I am thinking of warm places).
I was quite surprised when I received the notification in the mail as I had been through there before and never received one. They threaten to sick the debt collectors on you if you don't pay up. Figured with my luck I would get pulled over for a speeding ticket on the next trip and would have to "go down town" :)
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