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Old 01-22-2012, 05:55 PM   #1
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Faulty Fuel Level Strips

The letter I wrote to Motorcycle Consumer News about the problems with my 2009 R1200GS Fuel Level Strips just got published in the February issue. It is in the downtime files on page 8. There is an answer and response from BMW. Now would be a good time for others with this problem to give their comments to Motorcycle Consumer News as well after reading and referencing the article. This is a great publication and carries a lot of weight in the motorcycle industry. Their published information has gotten the manufacturers attention on other issues in the past.

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Old 01-22-2012, 08:40 PM   #2
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So are you going to post the answer here?
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:59 PM   #3
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Answers please. knowing BMW theyll scoff it up to poor fuel
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:51 AM   #4
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Are you able to post that same letter in this thread?
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:03 AM   #5
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Listening....

Got a 2010 with bad FS. Interested in BMW's response. Reckon they'll blamd the Ethanol, which is WEAK since Ethanol in Gas didn't arrive just yesterday, it's been here a while....AND IN EUROPE TOO!

And if it truly is Ethanol related, then go back to the easy float type approach.
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:37 AM   #6
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Got a 2010 with bad FS. Interested in BMW's response. Reckon they'll blamd the Ethanol, which is WEAK since Ethanol in Gas didn't arrive just yesterday, it's been here a while....AND IN EUROPE TOO!

And if it truly is Ethanol related, then go back to the easy float type approach.
Or design a fuel strip that is more robust to the effects of ethanol. That can't be so difficult. (or maybe it is since the went back to mechanical floats). g-
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:59 PM   #7
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Got a 2010 with bad FS. Interested in BMW's response. Reckon they'll blamd the Ethanol, which is WEAK since Ethanol in Gas didn't arrive just yesterday, it's been here a while....AND IN EUROPE TOO!

And if it truly is Ethanol related, then go back to the easy float type approach.
Actually, BMW did go back to a float type sensor on the new bikes (even though there was nothing whatsoever wrong with the strip sensors). Guess they just got tired of all the imaginary problems with the strips.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:08 PM   #8
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Actually, BMW did go back to a float type sensor on the new bikes (even though there was nothing whatsoever wrong with the strip sensors). Guess they just got tired of all the imaginary problems with the strips.
I thought this was only for bikes w/o the optional computer... computer bikes still have the strip.. I have no idea where I came up with this idea.. I am sure I read it here on adv though.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:13 PM   #9
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I thought this was only for bikes w/o the optional computer... computer bikes still have the strip.. I have no idea where I came up with this idea.. I am sure I read it here on adv though.
I got that info from the newest parts catalog and also a BMW bike "tech" (if that means anything). The parts catalog apparently doesn't list a strip for the new bikes - at least as far as I can see.
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Old 02-03-2012, 04:21 PM   #10
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Looks like the GS models have the float in them (after August 2010), but the GS Adventures still have the strip.

My Adventure just turned 1 month old, 4600 miles, and fuel level indication still works. Time will tell.
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Old 01-23-2012, 04:14 PM   #11
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My third fuel sensor strip went bad recently on my 2008 GS
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Old 01-23-2012, 05:14 PM   #12
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I'm on my third fuel strip and out of warranty. The last one installed by Gina's BMW was described by their shop manager as "a better and improved unit.". It is nearly perfect at predicting the last few miles but drops to one bar quickly and stays there through two gallon. That's why I have two spare fuel bottles on the back.
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:59 PM   #13
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I have two '07 bikes with fuel strips, an F650GS and an R1200GSA. The GSA has had zero problems with the fuel strip. The '07 F650GS did have a faulty strip. I took it to BMW Salt Lake, and they said nothing was wrong with it. Left the shop on empty, filled up for the 300 mile ride home, hit the road, and 25 miles later the fuel warning light came on. I called the shop, spoke to the 'service' manager. He asked me to bring it back. I told him that I had a 300 mile ride to get home and had to work the next day. I never took either of my bikes back to Salt Lake City for service. Too long of a ride for shitty service. They also said nothing was wrong with the clock and trip odometer which reset to zero every time the key is switched off.

I later read that Chevron fuel additives seem to prevent the strip from going bad.. and someone from germany posted up on this website the same thing.

Skip ahead a year and a half, I was in another BMW dealers shop, and there was what looked like a pint size bottle of a special BMW fuel additive for the fuel strip that also had the familiar Chevron company logo on the bottle.

Go figure..
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Old 01-24-2012, 02:41 PM   #14
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I'm on my third fuel strip and out of warranty. The last one installed by Gina's BMW was described by their shop manager as "a better and improved unit.". It is nearly perfect at predicting the last few miles but drops to one bar quickly and stays there through two gallon. That's why I have two spare fuel bottles on the back.
I cannot believe this can happen to a state of the art electronics motorbike. Some suggest predicting by the odometerˇ C'mon, even my last two Harleys had reliable fuel gauges. Is there some sort or class action affected owners can file? I am riding my GSA in Southern Patagonia, no ethanol whatsoever in the gas, and the gauge went crazy @ 2,500 miles. I am so pissed off!

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Old 01-24-2012, 07:24 PM   #15
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Still waiting patiently for the OP to post BMW's response on the thread....if he can....
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