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Old 04-03-2012, 10:22 AM   #1
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TY250 vs. TY350

OK folks anyone have an opinion?
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Old 04-03-2012, 05:13 PM   #2
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You would have to say what you are trying to compare. As far as U.S. models they were years apart.
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Old 04-03-2012, 05:55 PM   #3
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Sorry folks, but one of each has come up locally for sale and I was
just wondering which one would be the better bike? Pros and cons
for each. I presently have a TLR200 but am led to believe that any
of the TY's were a better trials bike.
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:22 PM   #4
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IF THE 250 IS THE WATERCOOLED MONO SHOCK THAT OVER THE 350.
IF THE 250 IS AIR COOLED TWIN SHOCK THE MONO SHOCK 350 WOULD BE THE ONE.
OF COURSE THE CONDITION OF EACH BIKE WOULD BE THE BIG FACTOR. THOUGH THE TLR MAYBE THE BETTER BIKE OF THE BUNCH.
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:25 PM   #5
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The ty 350 is the better bike by far. They were made in 85` and `86. The `86 was the best year. The TLR can be made to be better, but will always be under powered and too heavy.
P.S. I just rode a tlr sunday in our vintage class and it is a pig.
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Old 04-04-2012, 06:34 AM   #6
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P.S. I just rode a tlr sunday in our vintage class and it is a pig.

So did I. And yes, it is a pig.
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Old 04-04-2012, 12:59 AM   #7
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Mick Andrews and Nigel Birkett both of whom were involved with developing the TY mono, only ever used to ride modified 250's, and it seems strange that if the 350 was the better of the 2 bikes, that they were never imported into Europe, which has perhaps the biggest world market for trials machinery?
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Old 04-04-2012, 04:23 AM   #8
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At that age, I would say the only thing that matters is the condition of the bike and parts availability.
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:38 PM   #9
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At that age, I would say the only thing that matters is the condition of the bike and parts availability.
Thank you! I have my trusty TY350 sitting in the garage for lack of a piston replacement.

[It has a second life as a high skool art drawing prompt, teh kids love it.
Ironically, if one could operate a 2stroke internal combustion engined vehicle in a public institutions building:
I could ride the thing up the stair around the landing up the stair to teh art room; but I have to drain the gas, stick in teh elevator, and walk it down the hall, after hours. [RR to come, lol.]

QUESTION!
Sources / availability for TY250 piston / cylinder retrofit replacement???

Beats the bike just sitting in skool as a stinkin' still-life.

Thanks to any posts!
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:25 AM   #10
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Thank you! I have my trusty TY350 sitting in the garage for lack of a piston replacement.

[It has a second life as a high skool art drawing prompt, teh kids love it.
Ironically, if one could operate a 2stroke internal combustion engined vehicle in a public institutions building:
I could ride the thing up the stair around the landing up the stair to teh art room; but I have to drain the gas, stick in teh elevator, and walk it down the hall, after hours. [RR to come, lol.]

QUESTION!
Sources / availability for TY250 piston / cylinder retrofit replacement???

Beats the bike just sitting in skool as a stinkin' still-life.

Thanks to any posts!
Piston and Engine parts ... for the TY 250 mono: no problem in Europe, the 350 wasn't much sold in Europe here parts for this model are not so easy to get.

To the question between the TY250 mono and the TY350 mono made in the mid 80's to end 80's.

If you can get the 250cc TY mono, the 250cc is for putting around but also for really challenging obstacles miles better.

The 350cc engine might have more grunth but it doesn't feel so, the 250cc engine is much more related to the throttle then the 350cc, still soft as most bikes of that era but will build up momentum and power really quick if in need while the 350 engine - due to the bigger masses - not have got in the "stockings" while the 250cc is already in boots.

As a hint all championship and from Yamaha equipped riders rode the 250cc in Europe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-3-9Xi5a_k

The first minute are related to Bultaco, but then (remaining 3 minutes) the same rider (Charles Coutard) on the 250cc Yamaha mono.
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Old 04-04-2012, 07:34 AM   #11
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Mick Andrews and Nigel Birkett both of whom were involved with developing the TY mono, only ever used to ride modified 250's, and it seems strange that if the 350 was the better of the 2 bikes, that they were never imported into Europe, which has perhaps the biggest world market for trials machinery?
I suspect that lineaway is answering from a U.S. perspective. The only TY250 we got was the 70's dual shock model. Unless I am mistaken, we never got the 80's mono shock TY250.

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Old 04-04-2012, 08:26 AM   #12
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Oh geeeeez. And now to make matters even more confusing.........a friend
just offered up a 70's Montesa 123. What to do, what to do????
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:13 PM   #13
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Oh geeeeez. And now to make matters even more confusing.........a friend
just offered up a 70's Montesa 123. What to do, what to do????
Avoid the 125 based Montesa bikes, kickstart and gearbox problems are very common, and parts to repair are very difficult.
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:56 PM   #14
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Oh geeeeez. And now to make matters even more confusing.........a friend
just offered up a 70's Montesa 123. What to do, what to do????
Run away from the 123.
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Old 04-04-2012, 09:56 AM   #15
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The only TY250 we got was the 70's dual shock model. Unless I am mistaken, we never got the 80's mono shock TY250.
I wasn't aware of that.
We had both models in the Great White North and I had friends with each of them. The general preference (if memory serves me) was for the 250, being lighter and handier feeling for most. Easier to start too! A few of us on the larger side preferred the grunt of the 350, so I expect like so many such comparisons it would come down to individual preference.
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