ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Thumpers
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 05-13-2012, 08:23 PM   #1
edra OP
n00b
 
Joined: May 2012
Oddometer: 2
Question 2012 ktm 690 enduro R owners, any major problems ?

Howdy adventurers, ive just registered and have enjoyed reading this site,I am about to purchase a new 2012 ktm 690 enduro R but I have a few questions for any of you 2012 690 enduro R owners.
From what i can ascertain so far, the 2012 enduro R is a good bike but it has some issues those being

- bad tank bolts
- radiator fan shroud and blades wearing into radiator quickly
- leaking coolant on metal pump face thingo
- stalling at idle at lights,ecu fuel tuning etc
- polycarbonate sub frame ?
- rubber fuel or coolant? hose needs to be zip tied to frame to avoid wear

Are there any other problems with the 2012 model anyone knows of. I thought they had redesigned it for 2012 to rectify some of the issues but have they !?
.
I like the idea of the 690 R because although its heavy, with the right front fork rebuild and rear shock rebuild it is one of the more powerfull designs with a full exhaust making 70 -75 hp at the rear wheel all day long,

i know its not a 570 fe but its not so aggresively tuned and will last much longer between rebuilds.

if the 690 is on the verge of stalling out etc often making it tiresome ,WOULD I be better of waiting for the 2013 ENDURO R ?

Thanks in advance.
edra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2012, 10:20 PM   #2
Pantah
Patriot Nation?
 
Pantah's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Location: India Wharf
Oddometer: 10,116
If you want 75hp, you will probably have the same issues. If you leave it stock, including the exhaust and intake systems, it doesn't stall. I am sure you could apply those mods and make a proper map, but according to the big thread, nobody has made one that actually works.

You are right about 75hp, though. I can't imagine it because my stocker is more violently powerful than the bike it replaced; a KTM 950 ADV.
__________________
Straight ahead and faster -Bo Weaver 1970
"There I was..." -Griffin Niner Three Hotel
"One day closer to a parade..." Jonny Gomes, spring training 2013
Pantah is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2012, 10:22 AM   #3
Kirkster
Parts Murderer
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Location: Peoples Republic of MD
Oddometer: 296
Quote:
Originally Posted by edra View Post
Howdy adventurers, ive just registered and have enjoyed reading this site,I am about to purchase a new 2012 ktm 690 enduro R but I have a few questions for any of you 2012 690 enduro R owners.
From what i can ascertain so far, the 2012 enduro R is a good bike but it has some issues those being

- bad tank bolts
- radiator fan shroud and blades wearing into radiator quickly
- leaking coolant on metal pump face thingo
- stalling at idle at lights,ecu fuel tuning etc
- polycarbonate sub frame ?
- rubber fuel or coolant? hose needs to be zip tied to frame to avoid wear

Are there any other problems with the 2012 model anyone knows of. I thought they had redesigned it for 2012 to rectify some of the issues but have they !?
.
I like the idea of the 690 R because although its heavy, with the right front fork rebuild and rear shock rebuild it is one of the more powerfull designs with a full exhaust making 70 -75 hp at the rear wheel all day long,

i know its not a 570 fe but its not so aggresively tuned and will last much longer between rebuilds.

if the 690 is on the verge of stalling out etc often making it tiresome ,WOULD I be better of waiting for the 2013 ENDURO R ?

Thanks in advance.
Swapped out the Exhaust for an FMF Q4 Ti, put in the foam filter and it is rock solid. No stalling issues and runs great.

It is heavier than my WR450F and about the same as my old DRZ400E, But it feels much lighter when you are riding it, frankly it feels like a bike weighing it at 275 pounds VS the 310 mine weighed in at...
__________________
TAT 2013 the "I'm Just Sayin" tour
BMW 2007 R1200R
2012 KTM 690 R
07 WR 450F
Kirkster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2012, 01:26 PM   #4
Maurizio
2 smoker
 
Maurizio's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2003
Location: Turin, Italy
Oddometer: 163
Quote:
Originally Posted by edra View Post
,WOULD I be better of waiting for the 2013 ENDURO R ?
Maybe you have better waiting for m.y. 2014...
__________________
maurizio
'14 250 EXC E "Sparkling Orange"
'08 FLHCTUSE3 - '76 CB 750 F ss
sold: '03 950 adv s, '05 450 exc, '08 690 e
Maurizio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2014, 03:29 AM   #5
Bike Nomad
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Bike Nomad's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Location: Central Newfoundland, Canada
Oddometer: 321
Quote:
Originally Posted by edra View Post
if the 690 is on the verge of stalling out etc often making it tiresome ,WOULD I be better of waiting for the 2013 ENDURO R ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maurizio View Post
Maybe you have better waiting for m.y. 2014...
I think I started reading this thread a long time ago but didn't keep up with it.
I started from the beginning again and found the above quotes amusing.

Might have been said as a bit of humor, but it turns out to be prophetic--No reported stalling issues with the 2014s yet.

I notice the OP joined one day, started this thread, posted one more time the next day and has not logged in again. As the 2012 & 2013 are so similar wouldn't it make sense to close this thread and move the discussion to the Wunderfest?
__________________
DON'T GET IT TWISTED --ITS DUAL SPORT! NOT DUEL SPORT!
Bike Nomad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2012, 01:45 PM   #6
Oldbear
Don't want a pickle
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Location: Fin Land
Oddometer: 209
I've enjoyed my '12 for 700 miles so far. Wings can w/ noise killer, stock map & air filter. Runs like a champ, no stalling whatsoever.

Only problem I've had was a leaking rear shock which I took to the dealer for a rebuild.

Oh yeah, and had to replace some rear light wiring that they managed to pinch & cut while they reinstalled the rear shock at the dealers

Riding this bike is so much fun it feels somehow illegal.
Oldbear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2012, 02:52 AM   #7
Pheebs
Adventurer
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Location: Bristol
Oddometer: 54
Hey mister!!

Sam and I picked up two last week! Mines been running like a dream... Only thing thats a bugger is the tremendously super hot exhaust which after brushing against after a ride nearly turned my bum into a rump steak! We're doing a rtw trip on them so will be changing this and various other bits!

Sams bike on the other hand... First ride out (heading to our charity event to promote our rtw on bikesfunnily enough) we filled up with petrol and when pulling off gently the bubba back fired and there was a stupid loud pop... Or so we thought. He tried again... Sam thing happened... And again. We pulled the bike up and upon a close inspection discovered the throttle body had detatched itself from the engine.

We could have fixed it but out of principle with it being 24hrs old we asked the dealer to pick it up.

When the bike returned they said they had tightened it back on but the rubber was cosmetically damaged at the join so they had ordered a new one and it was sound to ride. 2nd ride out and 100miles later of steady riding and it was fine. The next day we noticed there was some coolant coming out of the overflow, thought nothing of it and took it out again.

30mins later... *pop* ... The throttle body had come off again. In the middle of Wales we fixed it the best we could at the side of the road but in doing so noticed it was spewing out coolant from the cap and over flow and the oil too was steadily leaking everywhere.

Needless to say we've sent it back to be looked at by the garage. A chap we met at the charity biking event last weekend had the same problem with the throttle body and it also randomly cutting out so we're wondering if this is a potential manufacturing fault!

Currently Sam has been left with a courtesy bike of a Suzuki v-stromb of which he is mega sad about poor boy!

Will update when I know more! Hope no one else has our problems!
__________________
www.chasinghorizons.co.uk
Pheebs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2013, 08:17 PM   #8
DirtRider50
n00b
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Location: Miami, FL
Oddometer: 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pheebs View Post
Hey mister!!

Sam and I picked up two last week! Mines been running like a dream... Only thing thats a bugger is the tremendously super hot exhaust which after brushing against after a ride nearly turned my bum into a rump steak! We're doing a rtw trip on them so will be changing this and various other bits!

Sams bike on the other hand... First ride out (heading to our charity event to promote our rtw on bikesfunnily enough) we filled up with petrol and when pulling off gently the bubba back fired and there was a stupid loud pop... Or so we thought. He tried again... Sam thing happened... And again. We pulled the bike up and upon a close inspection discovered the throttle body had detatched itself from the engine.

We could have fixed it but out of principle with it being 24hrs old we asked the dealer to pick it up.

When the bike returned they said they had tightened it back on but the rubber was cosmetically damaged at the join so they had ordered a new one and it was sound to ride. 2nd ride out and 100miles later of steady riding and it was fine. The next day we noticed there was some coolant coming out of the overflow, thought nothing of it and took it out again.

30mins later... *pop* ... The throttle body had come off again. In the middle of Wales we fixed it the best we could at the side of the road but in doing so noticed it was spewing out coolant from the cap and over flow and the oil too was steadily leaking everywhere.

Needless to say we've sent it back to be looked at by the garage. A chap we met at the charity biking event last weekend had the same problem with the throttle body and it also randomly cutting out so we're wondering if this is a potential manufacturing fault!

Currently Sam has been left with a courtesy bike of a Suzuki v-stromb of which he is mega sad about poor boy!

Will update when I know more! Hope no one else has our problems!

My 2012 KTM 690 R Enduro has 600 miles and the throttle body has detatched itself from the engine twice. Any updates?

Thanks....
DirtRider50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2013, 09:45 PM   #9
creedyflyr
Gnarly Adventurer
 
creedyflyr's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Location: Port Stephens NSW Australia
Oddometer: 225
Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtRider50 View Post
My 2012 KTM 690 R Enduro has 600 miles and the throttle body has detatched itself from the engine twice. Any updates?

Thanks....
I'm a bit surprised so many people have this problem but nobody has had a good look at why it happens. This happened to my 2012 690 twice in the 1st few hundred K's so the 1st place I looked was the clamp that holds the Boot to the Throttle Body. If I tightened it up all the way, I could still rotate the T/B slightly in the Boot. It seems the small spacer in the clamp was preventing the clamp from tightneing enough so I simply removed the spacer & re tightened the clamp. Problem solved. Never happened again.
This took Me all of 5 minutes to diagnose & fix on the side of the trail so I find it funny so many people cant figure this out. Some times the easiest solution is the most overlooked.
Creedy.
creedyflyr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2013, 10:08 PM   #10
JustBob
Uh...who me?
 
JustBob's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Young Harris, GA
Oddometer: 761
Made me look.

My 2010 690 has two clamps, both with the small spacers but the TB is on tight...no rotating. And the clamps aren't actually touching.....not screwed down all the way. I've got 7700 miles on the bike, FWIW.
__________________
Bob Hancock
'14 R1200GSW; '14 F800GSA
'10 690 EnduroR; '11 WR250R
'88 R100RS
JustBob is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2013, 12:40 PM   #11
brianpc
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Location: San Jose, CA
Oddometer: 211
Thank you for this thread!! I have a deposit down on a '13 enduro R, and after a year+ of ownership of a flawless and very reliable '12 350 EXC-F, this is starting to concern me! The dealer I buy from is very good however, so I'm hoping they're familiar with these issues that they can be of help.

Question - anybody from CA, what are you guys paying for these things? Anyone else have a deposit down on the '13? The ride by wire throttle I did not know about it, but I don't fear technology that much... Things like the broken tank bolts and the throttle body backfiring off scare me more!

Thanks again for all the info. :)
brianpc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2014, 07:57 AM   #12
CAYMALAM
Adventurer
 
CAYMALAM's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Location: Panama,Rep Of Panama
Oddometer: 54
Quote:
Originally Posted by creedyflyr View Post
I'm a bit surprised so many people have this problem but nobody has had a good look at why it happens. This happened to my 2012 690 twice in the 1st few hundred K's so the 1st place I looked was the clamp that holds the Boot to the Throttle Body. If I tightened it up all the way, I could still rotate the T/B slightly in the Boot. It seems the small spacer in the clamp was preventing the clamp from tightneing enough so I simply removed the spacer & re tightened the clamp. Problem solved. Never happened again.
This took Me all of 5 minutes to diagnose & fix on the side of the trail so I find it funny so many people cant figure this out. Some times the easiest solution is the most overlooked.
Creedy.
I had the same detached throttle body but I removed the spacer, after that it pups out again, Take it to the dealer and they put another spacer hehehe, after that it pups 3 times again, they says that they don't know whats happening. The other thing that a few days ago, was on a night ride in fresh conditions, and all coolant reservoir was leaking, only pass me 1 time.

Im running a FMF Q4 and kn air filter, runs great but still having the pop out throtlebody like 3 times since they put the spacer.
CAYMALAM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2014, 08:49 AM   #13
MeinMotorrad
Beastly Adventurer
 
MeinMotorrad's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Location: Between Velez Rubio and Huercal Overa, Spain.
Oddometer: 1,261
Quote:
Originally Posted by CAYMALAM View Post
I had the same detached throttle body but I removed the spacer, after that it pups out again, Take it to the dealer and they put another spacer hehehe, after that it pups 3 times again, they says that they don't know whats happening. The other thing that a few days ago, was on a night ride in fresh conditions, and all coolant reservoir was leaking, only pass me 1 time.

Im running a FMF Q4 and kn air filter, runs great but still having the pop out throtlebody like 3 times since they put the spacer.
You need a new map for the ecu. Take a wonder over to the KTM 690 E & TuneECU thread for more info and advice.
__________________
'12 KTM 690 Enduro R
MeinMotorrad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2014, 07:50 AM   #14
CAYMALAM
Adventurer
 
CAYMALAM's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Location: Panama,Rep Of Panama
Oddometer: 54
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pheebs View Post
Hey mister!!

Sam and I picked up two last week! Mines been running like a dream... Only thing thats a bugger is the tremendously super hot exhaust which after brushing against after a ride nearly turned my bum into a rump steak! We're doing a rtw trip on them so will be changing this and various other bits!

Sams bike on the other hand... First ride out (heading to our charity event to promote our rtw on bikesfunnily enough) we filled up with petrol and when pulling off gently the bubba back fired and there was a stupid loud pop... Or so we thought. He tried again... Sam thing happened... And again. We pulled the bike up and upon a close inspection discovered the throttle body had detatched itself from the engine.

We could have fixed it but out of principle with it being 24hrs old we asked the dealer to pick it up.

When the bike returned they said they had tightened it back on but the rubber was cosmetically damaged at the join so they had ordered a new one and it was sound to ride. 2nd ride out and 100miles later of steady riding and it was fine. The next day we noticed there was some coolant coming out of the overflow, thought nothing of it and took it out again.

30mins later... *pop* ... The throttle body had come off again. In the middle of Wales we fixed it the best we could at the side of the road but in doing so noticed it was spewing out coolant from the cap and over flow and the oil too was steadily leaking everywhere.

Needless to say we've sent it back to be looked at by the garage. A chap we met at the charity biking event last weekend had the same problem with the throttle body and it also randomly cutting out so we're wondering if this is a potential manufacturing fault!

Currently Sam has been left with a courtesy bike of a Suzuki v-stromb of which he is mega sad about poor boy!

Will update when I know more! Hope no one else has our problems!



Hi Pheebs, Im running the same bike and have the same problems like yours, do the dealer fix the issues? What do they do to it?
CAYMALAM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2012, 09:34 AM   #15
kmann51
Adventurer
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: Great Northwest
Oddometer: 10
Follow up to stalling issue

Tracy at Gresham KTM chased it down to the fuel pump -as the blink code indicated. During the assembly of the bike, a zip tie used to secure the fuel pump wiring actually pulled one of the wires loose and the connection was intermittent. I put a quick 100 miles on it to see how it ran and now it seems fine. I'm now on my way to Moab, UT for a few days of riding and although there are more appropriate KTM's for this ride, this 690 is going to be put to the test.

This is the first KTM I've bought since 2000, and from what I've read and heard from other owners is that the performance is right on but the reliability/quality control is spotty. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
__________________
More cowbell

kmann51 screwed with this post 05-20-2012 at 09:38 AM Reason: spelling
kmann51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 04:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014