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Old 05-20-2012, 03:43 AM   #1
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Fuel pump for 800gs

Hi
Does anyone know what fuel pump is in the BMW fuel pump assembly? The whole assembly is big bucks from bmw and i think i can resolve my problem with just the pump itself. I assume I can just switch out this part?

I believe it is a common pump used in many cars.

It is an 2009 btw.
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:11 AM   #2
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Are you sure it's the fuel pump? it's more common to have a fuel pump controller issue, than the fuel pump itself. Someone on ADVrider sells a fuel pump controller bypass cable for emergency use (in the Vendors forum).
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Old 08-01-2012, 07:05 AM   #3
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Are you sure it's the fuel pump? it's more common to have a fuel pump controller issue, than the fuel pump itself. Someone on ADVrider sells a fuel pump controller bypass cable for emergency use (in the Vendors forum).
Here's the link to the cable at burnsmoto.com - http://burnsmoto.com/bmw-fuel-pump-bypass-cable.php
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Old 08-01-2012, 07:20 AM   #4
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I did get a response from my email:

we have one considerable research
into the BMW bike pump fitment but it's possible we got the years off,
however if the bike is EFI, this pump will certainly fit. The volume
of this pump is 90LPH and the pressure is 45psi, however the final
fuel pressure will be determined by the bike's fuel pressure
regualator.
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:04 AM   #5
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itsatdm -- Thanks for researching this part. I am keeping the part number and business phone number with me.

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Old 08-20-2012, 12:17 PM   #6
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The only thing I can add is I found another site selling the same pump that says the PSI is 50lb. I think that is the same as OEM.
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:26 PM   #7
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Can someone point me to a video/pics on where/how to do this on the F800gs?
ie where the fuel pump control (FPC) module is located and how to remove it. Video on youtube for the 1200, but looking for something bike specific.
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Old 05-21-2012, 05:54 AM   #8
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The pump can be "hot wired" (by-passing the controller) if the controller is really your problem, and like GB said, that's a good thing to try if you have not done so....

A "generic" replacement pump had been the subject of much speculation, but AFAIK no one has posted any P/N of pumps that work & fit. The pump is rated at 3.5 bar with 60 l/hr minimum.

Here is an append from one of our resident experts (Joel Wisman) on the topic:

I had a bosch part# that would drop right in size wise. As to the spec above, that is a minimum pass or fail powered through the controller which is always going to be a volt or more lower then 14.2 where these things are spec'd by bosch. The pump I had the # of was same dimensions, terminal configuration, and outlet diameter but 100 l/h

In any case, the part number was in my then desk which is mine no more.

Any pump that you can some how strap onto the bracket so that it hangs near the bottom of the tank and is in the 80-160 lph range should work just fine.

I sold my F8, but if I still had it and it was out of warranty or going somewhere far from civilization, I'd pick a pump from Denso, or Marelli. Bosch pumps aren't doing well with ethanol in any application I am aware of.

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Old 05-25-2012, 12:34 PM   #9
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I am an idiot, I know, but can someone tell me, what is the brand of this?
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Old 05-25-2012, 03:05 PM   #10
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The brand is OPEL.
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Old 05-25-2012, 06:32 PM   #11
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I am an idiot, I know, but can someone tell me, what is the brand of this?
I believe the brand of that particular unit is "Chinese-generic"
I linked to it because it had the best pictures of what the unit looked like.........
There are several sellers on ebay selling a "compatible unit" .... some as cheap as $30 ....
if it is "plug compatible" we can try to find a "reputable" source ....
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Old 05-24-2012, 05:44 AM   #12
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Opel Tigra Vectra B Zafira 99-05 FUEL PUMP OPEL 815037

I think I found it on one of the other forums.....
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Old 05-24-2012, 06:43 AM   #13
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I've never held the OEM unit in my hands, but from pictures I have seen this could be a winner!

I found some detailed drawings here:

http://cnnc.en.alibaba.com/productsh...8_9200109.html

Can anyone confirm?
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:34 AM   #14
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So I tried one of the cheap eBay ones... It fitted fine, but at the same time I replace my external fuel filter, air filter, spark plugs, clean the ica, cleaned the air box and all connected sensors, replace all fuel hoses, broke the nipple off the fuel rail and cleaned the fuel pressure sensor...
So I tapped a new nipple into the end of the fuel rail, added so two part epoxy and waited 24 hrs for it to dry. This was two weeks ago and since re-assembling it all the bike ran awesome when cold but once warm had a rough idle. I thought ica so I took it out removed the plunger and lube it, did the tps reset and than tried again.. Still crappy idle..
So after putting up with it for two weeks I fitted the stock fuel pump today and too my surprise my warm idle is now perfect the bike no longer stalls after blipping the throttle..

So from this learning I think I'll be buying a decent brand pump next and I'll try it all over again. :-)
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Old 06-30-2012, 09:02 AM   #15
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I am delighted to learn that the pump is at least dimensionally the same!

So ... if we can find a quality mfg. maybe we'll be in business
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