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Old 07-02-2012, 03:06 AM   #1
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2013 F800GS and F700GS merged threadfest

http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/b..._overview.html

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Old 07-02-2012, 03:17 AM   #2
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:34 AM   #3
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What a bunch of idiots at BMW marketing - F700GS?!?
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:31 AM   #4
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:57 PM   #5
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:42 AM   #6
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Idd, why not keep it simple and call it the f800gs and the f800gs adv ...
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:01 AM   #7
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I put the full Tech brief here - http://www.mcnews.com.au/2013_Bikes/...0GS_F800GS.pdf

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Old 07-02-2012, 04:25 AM   #8
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They reduced the area and angle of attack of the beak......



....certain disaster on the freeway......


Yeah, yeah...I know...naughty corner.

But in all seriousness, have they changed anything mechanical...or addressed the minor issues such as the shock bolts...ethanol proofed the fuel system...done anything with the front end...

No?

But they paid for retooling for the plastics.

Oh well, that's something...yeah?


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Old 07-02-2012, 11:25 AM   #9
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They reduced the area and angle of attack of the beak......



....certain disaster on the freeway......


Yeah, yeah...I know...naughty corner.

But in all seriousness, have they changed anything mechanical...or addressed the minor issues such as the shock bolts...ethanol proofed the fuel system...done anything with the front end...

No?

But they paid for retooling for the plastics.

Oh well, that's something...yeah?


sigh...
On the 650/700 being able to get ESA and ASC is new (er at least since '11). /qq on nothing on the new boxer tho.

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Old 07-02-2012, 01:03 PM   #10
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On the 650/700 being able to get ESA and ASC is new (er at least since '11). /qq on nothing on the new boxer tho.
Yes, but from the press release, it looks as though they are offering ESA on the F800 as well. Might be bringing in updated suspension as well. Anyway, I am happy with mine, the upgrades are too meh for me to think of them. So much for the theory that the Tiger 800XC forcing BMW to do a decent round of upgrades this time.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:57 PM   #11
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They gave the 650, er the 700 four more hp at a higher rpm.
They haven't yet mentioned the torque output or the rpm it comes at.
Or if it still runs on regular.
The old motor is a diesel, pulls off the bottom, they shouldn't mess with it.
Every modern motor out has a weak low end to mid range, with the F650 being a rare exception.
I think they look better, or newer. Evolution ya know...

Oh... Late catch. Twin discs on the 700! There goes the weight advantage...

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Old 07-02-2012, 04:12 PM   #12
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On the 650/700 being able to get ESA and ASC is new (er at least since '11). /qq on nothing on the new boxer tho.
Yes it is, however, in having read through this forum I'd be bold enough to say that quite a lot of the inmates don't want MORE electronics.

Personally, having dealt with electronic gremlins in the original model I'd be in no hurry to sign up for one with even more CANBUS potential failures.

It's becoming more and more a road bike for cafe tourers.

The fact that it requires premium fuel is a give away as to where they intend it to be used.

No more than half a tank away from civilization.
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:40 PM   #13
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Some worthy changes for the F700. Probably more HP by advancing the ignition curve. That will cause a need for premium gas.

Other than the optional suspension, some body work changes and more electronics to fail, not much new here.

As far as converting the 800 to 900cc, the cylinders are plated, so a rebore requires them to be replated. Those pistons may not have the same piston pin location, they were meant for a crank with a different crank offset which might have required different connecting rods. If you changed the crank you would have to change the ignition mapping, requiring a different ECU.

Since they have closed the HP and Torque gap, it just convinced me that the 900 is coming. It just will be in 2014 instead of 2013. I will just wait for BMW to install it.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:42 PM   #14
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Some worthy changes for the F700. Probably more HP by advancing the ignition curve. That will cause a need for premium gas.
I wonder if it has some "intermediate" cam grind closer to the F800 or is it still the F658 cam?
The same language is in the announcement about detuning to burn lower octane gasoline....
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:59 PM   #15
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Since they have closed the HP and Torque gap, it just convinced me that the 900 is coming. It just will be in 2014 instead of 2013. I will just wait for BMW to install it.
Unless it will be a 2013 Husky!!



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