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08-27-2012, 10:44 AM
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PllnGs tillthey puke
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Location: Flatistan FL
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2 smoke DS's on pavement......?
Had a question for the masses....plan on buying a KTM 300 EXC or XWC and was wondering what the individuals with 2 stroke DS bikes do when they have to connect trails via pavement for 10-20 miles??? I know that there are a lot of people on here who ride 2 stroke bikes up in the mountains and have to do this....but was wondering how they preserve the life of the piston/rings (top end) when they have to use pavement to get to other places.....One guy just recently told me in CO that he'll pull the choke out on the pavement to give a richer mixture and lubricate the piston on pavement sections and not burn the rings out as quick, but wasn't sure if that was the case or accurate? What does everyone else do???
Thanks in advance for the advice!!
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08-27-2012, 01:55 PM
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Studly Adventurer
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Pulling the choke out helps to stop bikes overheating when used at wide throttle openings on the road, and thus prevents motors seizing up. If you can just taking things a bit easier on the road is a much better idea, and will mean motors last longer.
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08-27-2012, 02:03 PM
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Beastly Adventurer
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I've had to do 10-20 miles of 2 lane a couple times on my 200 EXC.
Not much traffic here, so I just took it easy. 40-50 mph except for a couple times. The off road tires weren't much fun either, |
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08-27-2012, 03:35 PM
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tierra de boobies
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Location: Salinas, Santa Elena, Ecuador
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hitting the kill switch periodically works as well. on a 82 yz490 I had a cable rigged up to pull the choke for long flat baja dry lake bed crossings. pretty easy to do.
Mike
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08-28-2012, 03:01 AM
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tEAM iDIOT
Joined: Apr 2007
Location: Middle Park, Brisbane, Australia
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I don't do anything.
I did a couple of hundred K on a highway to get home once... She handled it without a problem. But I'm going to look into the bar mounted choke lever.
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08-28-2012, 11:14 AM
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Beastly Adventurer
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Location: Jacksonville Florida
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Those bikes are very stoutly engineered especially compared to all the vintage stuff I ride. I don't see how this would be a problem. If you're concerned about holding a constant RPM for an extended period then don't. move it around a bit, hold the clutch in on looong downhill runs (a mile or more) and otherwise ride it like a normal motorcycle. Not sure what the mechanism is on the 300 but choking it will typically just get it way rich on a warmed up bike. I don't see how this will help if the bike is properly tuned jetted mapped whatever.
2 cents..
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08-28-2012, 04:22 PM
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Gnarly Adventurer
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Location: Twin Peaks, Wa
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I gently roll the throttle on and off. Been fine for hundreds of miles now.
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08-29-2012, 12:33 AM
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Studly Adventurer
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The reason why its not a good idea to ride dirt bikes flat out on the road for any length of time, is due to the cooling systems not being designed to get rid of the amount of heat this is likely to mean, which makes seizure a distinct possibility.
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08-29-2012, 12:36 AM
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Studly Adventurer
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Location: Northern Ireland
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um, just dont ride it full throttle??
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08-29-2012, 04:24 PM
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Beastly Adventurer
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It is a water cooled bike, I am sure it is fine
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08-30-2012, 07:57 AM
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De Oppresso Liber
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Location: Central New Mexico, 7420ft above sea level
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I have put thousands of miles on the pavement on MX bikes, enduros, and 2 stroke street bikes and never had a problem with ring wear. On 2 stroke MX bikes I do vary the throttle a little to both keep it from surging and keep the vibes to a minimum.
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09-02-2012, 01:02 PM
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Gnarly Adventurer
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Location: Sydney
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Just jet it, so it will run on the road.
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09-02-2012, 10:56 PM
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Studly Adventurer
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Fitting bigger jets might stop a dirt bike seizing when its ridden on the road, but it wont alter the fact that the cooling system isnt designed to dissipate the amount of heat resulting from wide throttle openings for long periods of time.
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09-03-2012, 11:45 AM
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tEAM iDIOT
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All my bikes get much hotter doing slow stuff than they do on the highway. I have never overheated a bike on the highway, but I have on slow stuff and waiting in traffic, so I really don't see a problem with cooling.
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09-04-2012, 01:05 PM
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pistolero
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Location: NW Kansas
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I used to run my old DT250 35 miles to the next town. Crused 55 to 60 mph, speed limit was 55. Air cooled, oil injection, never heard of varying the rpm, pulling in the clutch, or applying the choke. It's a wonder I didn't go up in flames
Are you really running with the throttle wrapped clear around? Find a comfortable cruising speed and don't rap it out tight. Unless you are running lean on the top end of the throttle opening I can't see where you would get into too much trouble. Both bikes you are talking about are water cooled aren't they? Thought those bikes were "enduro" types were it could see a long stretch of high speed through desert like conditions.
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