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Old 10-27-2012, 09:28 PM   #1
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Toddler on a dual sport, possible?

Is it possible to have a toddler (18 months old) on a dual sport as a passenger?

Reason im asking is the other day i had to go somewhere, my wife was out and she had the car, and i was with my youngest son who is 18 MO, thought about taking the bike with him obviously in front of me, but dont even know if its legal, safe, or anything?

ive given him rides on the bike just around the garages in my townhouse area, but never on a actuall street,

what say you inmates?

yay, nay, or im a dumbass for even thinking about doing that.
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:32 PM   #2
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I'm going to go out on a limb and assume there's no helmet in the works. It's worth pointing out that baby heads are even squishier than adult heads.
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:35 PM   #3
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There is a helmet for sure, DOT approved and all, both my son and daughter have little DOT mx style helmets, just for when i take them on little rides around our townhome.
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:52 PM   #4
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I don't want to sound too "dark" here, but when I read your question, first thing that came to my mind was the story below...
It happened not long ago not far from where I live.
Very sad story all around, all the way to the last sentence.
Sh!t happens quick... Think twice. Call a cab and put the kido in a car seat. It's only going to cost you money...

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TAYLORSVILLE — A toddler was pronounced dead after a motorcycle he was riding on with his father crashed.

Around 2:40 p.m. Sunday, Unified Police Department received a call about a motorcycle crash involving a 1-year-old boy and his father in an apartment complex parking lot at 4521 S. Bridgeside Way in Taylorsville.

The man, 48-year-old Shannon Moore had taken his son for a ride on a motorcycle, placing him between himself and the handlebars, sitting on top of the gas tank.

Driving at an excessive speed, Moore tried to negotiate a turn and lost control of the motorcycle, crashing. The toddler fell off the gas tank, sustaining fatal injuries.

"This is something we see a lot," said Unified Police Department Det. Levi Highes. "People want to take their kids for a ride, they put them on a four-wheeler, a motorcycle, they drive around, there aren't helmets on them. It just takes a little bit of a slip; you're holding onto a bike, you can't hold onto a child. …If you have a child who can't reach the pegs, can't hold on, this is far too young to be on a bike."

The boy was pronounced dead on scene, and Moore was transported to a hospital to be treated for his injuries.

The father may face criminal charges for his son's death pending the outcome of the investigation.




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Old 10-28-2012, 12:08 AM   #5
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From the CHP:
A child may ride as a passenger on a motorcycle when he/she is no longer required to be in a child restraint (car seat) and their feet can reach the passenger foot pegs. Failure to obey this could result in citations being issued for violations of 27360 of the California Vehicle Code (Child Passenger Restraint law) and 27800 of the Vehicle Code (Motorcycles - Passengers: Equipment and Usage). Additionally, depending on the circumstances, an officer could cite or arrest the adult for child endangerment.

From here: http://www.kionrightnow.com/story/15...n-a-motorcycle
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:45 AM   #6
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as the kid wont be able to reach the rear pegs then it wont be safe or legal. there is to much of a risk in case he slips of the tank and fall to the ground when you are stopped could damge a bady.
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:47 AM   #7
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Ya know it's very odd ... I googled toddler on pushbike and it came up with bucket loads of hits

This is just one of them http://www.bicyclenetwork.com.au/gen...-riding/41629/

Of course everyone knows that pushbikes are safe because they are human rather than mechanical powered so that makes it ok
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Old 10-28-2012, 02:44 AM   #8
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Ya know it's very odd ... I googled toddler on pushbike and it came up with bucket loads of hits

This is just one of them http://www.bicyclenetwork.com.au/gen...-riding/41629/

Of course everyone knows that pushbikes are safe because they are human rather than mechanical powered so that makes it ok
A bicycle weighs far less, generally travels at a lower speed and those seats you see in your links are designed to protect the kid in the event of a fall (they still need a helmet, though). As far as I know, there is no 'booster seat' designed or available for use on a motorcycle.
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Old 10-28-2012, 02:55 AM   #9
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No, and you said it in your last sentence.
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Old 10-28-2012, 07:58 AM   #10
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It's your kid. If you can figure out a way to mitigate the risk down to a reasonable level and find a way to keep him on the bike then go for it.

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Old 10-28-2012, 05:07 PM   #11
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It's your kid. If you can figure out a way to mitigate the risk down to a reasonable level and find a way to keep him on the bike then go for it.

[key up the "it takes a village" people]




The only real issue I see here is the legality aspect.

I do have to laugh at all of the doomsdayers responding in this thread. How the hell do you guys make it through a day with all those deadly what ifs plaguing you? Do you all constantly twitch like chihuahuas or do you just tense up and fall over like those fainting goats at the first sign of trouble ?
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Old 10-28-2012, 05:39 PM   #12
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The only real issue I see here is the legality aspect.

I do have to laugh at all of the doomsdayers responding in this thread. How the hell do you guys make it through a day with all those deadly what ifs plaguing you? Do you all constantly twitch like chihuahuas or do you just tense up and fall over like those fainting goats at the first sign of trouble ?
So you've never dropped a motorcycle and also advocate breaking the law and putting a child in harm's way?
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Old 10-28-2012, 05:50 PM   #13
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So you've never dropped a motorcycle and also advocate breaking the law and putting a child in harm's way?
Sure, let's go with that.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:43 AM   #14
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It's your kid. If you can figure out a way to mitigate the risk down to a reasonable level and find a way to keep him on the bike then go for it.

[key up the "it takes a village" people]
The child is not a 'possession', the child is his own person who can't happen to take care of himself yet. The parent is a guardian.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:25 AM   #15
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The parent is a guardian.
Who's job it is to protect the child and raise the child as THEY feel fit.

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