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Old 11-07-2012, 11:08 AM   #1
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2005 1200GS known issues?

The wife and I are going to look at a 2005 R1200GS this weekend and I am trying to sort out the known issues with these bikes are particular years. Is there anything I need to be concerned with? I've heqrd reliability is great, but also likened to playing the lottery. Could end up with a bad one.

We are coming from japanese reliability standpoint.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:27 AM   #2
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Cracks on rear flange

May be tough to see but definately check the flange that holds the read tire on, there can be cracks at the lugs or brake bolts. get a flachlight on that.

Do a search on this site, there's a thread all about it.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:49 AM   #3
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May be tough to see but definately check the flange that holds the read tire on, there can be cracks at the lugs or brake bolts. get a flachlight on that.

Do a search on this site, there's a thread all about it.
To be clear, this concern is for all years of R1200Gs with the possible exception of 2012s, if they have a steel flange instead of AL. There was a running change to the part and I am not exactly sure when it happened.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:01 PM   #4
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Others may agree or disagree with me but 2005 was the first year of the 1200. I just remember a lot of issues that were ironed out later. There were some that one cylinder would drop a valve or otherwise blow up. The Final Drive oil for life that was fixed later. Something about the fuel pumps shorting out. Front Brake rotors, rear brake flange as mentioned was big on 05 and 06 models.

Put your location on your profile, locals can better help you and point you to good deals in the area.

This site has a Flea Market section. Good deals come up there all the time. I prefer 2008 and newer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_R1200GS look for 2005 issues in lower right recall section of this article. 19 and 20

http://www.motorcycleinfo.co.uk/inde...vjxqtaqfhxwmvv

cylinder issue
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189778
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:04 PM   #5
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I prefer 2008 and newer.
What is your reasoning?
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:10 PM   #6
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What is your reasoning?
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:12 PM   #7
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What is your reasoning?
I have an 08 GSA. It seems pretty debugged although my FD wore out after a trip from ATL to Prudhoe BAY AK and back at 32,000 miles. It had some minor recalls, key ring, brake line positioning and one fuel strip.

My buddy has a 2007 GSA. His is pretty solid but the 2008 has some better cosmetic items like led rear brake light and bigger beak.

Before I bought my 08 I had an 1150GSA and remember reading issues with the 05s and 06s plus I thought I read they don't make a Final Drive for the older bikes anymore?? I'm not sure if that is correct.

But if a person can get an 05 at a good price and all the issues are corrected why not go for it. Buying from a dealer doesn't guarantee anything. Every time I have returned to my salesman with a issue on a new vehicle (not m/c) I was told this is sales, service is in the back have a nice day....the reverse was true too. Sales promised me a part at cost. I went to parts and they wanted full price. We are parts not sales.

07 and 08s have prettier anodizing on the fork legs too.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:55 PM   #8
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I have a first release '05 and it has around 57,000 miles on it. Had a transmission vent thing replaced under warranty, and I had to replace the rear wheel flange last year, but has been fine otherwise. Still runs great. I love it, whizzy brakes and all.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:42 PM   #9
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The bike in question is being offered by a BMW dealership, so I am guessing any known issues "should" be updated or "certified" as being serviced properly. Not always the case I'm sure, but I'll bring up some of these points, thank you.

I have seen much of the FD issues being talked about.

Wife is more attracted to the RT/LT's than the GS. I am coming from a dirt bike/supersport background and feel like RT/LT's are for when I'm 60....sorry

I've always wanted a GS.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:55 PM   #10
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If it is an abs bike, i believe that model's abs pressure module has been flagged as a issue. If it goes, you may lose the speedometer, and get a flashing red light which will impede inspection. And don't forget the sticker shock -- IIRC, it is about a $2,500 part. . .. And don't forget installation, which could be another $1,000.

http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fic...6&rnd=08102012
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:15 PM   #11
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:42 PM   #12
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Current threads discussing the abs pm issue:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=838196

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=839490
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:52 PM   #13
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I have a 05 and so does my riding buddy, Both are doing fine. Check for oil between the engine and the trans, rear main . Dino oil seems to work best for us. No other issues for me 35,000 miles . A great bike but you knew that.
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:38 PM   #14
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Main seal leaking was pretty much on all 05's and early 06's, once the bike had about 10 to 12K miles..
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:41 PM   #15
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I bought an 05 R1200GS w/42k miles.
In the first 1k miles I was greeted w/a rear wheel carrier (aka flange) w/cracks.
4k later it was the ABS failure. Module Masters could not fix it, so it got an ABS-ectomy.
If I could do it again, I'd wait for a 2007 or newer.
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