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Old 11-12-2012, 03:29 PM   #1
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Tire Repair???

Long story short, my rear Metzeler has a tiny hole right in the middle of the tread. The air holds for a day or two. Brought it to the dealer who said they won't touch it because of liability and wanted to sell me a new one. Now what? So I thought I'll see what you guys have to say.

The tire has about 6k miles on it. I found the hole submerging the wheel but couldn't see anything stuck in there. Tiny bubbles.

option1: Bite the bullet and buy a new one, considering that it has maybe a third of its life left. $200 for a new one divided by 3 is about 66 bucks. If any tire place charges that amount for repair I'll already break even.

option2: Use some spray repair goo to fill the tire and hopefully clog up that tiny hole.

option3: Master Tire Repair kit. Seems to be an awfully big hole to create and then fix it

What do you guys think?
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:00 PM   #2
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Use a string plug and your good to go.
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:06 PM   #3
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Use a string plug and your good to go.
Yep

JimVonBaden has a Plugging tutorial on his web site. It is easy, inexpensive and works well
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:17 PM   #4
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Yep

JimVonBaden has a Plugging tutorial on his web site. It is easy, inexpensive and works well

http://www.jimvonbaden.com/Tire_Plugging.html

String plug and ride! So long as it is in the tread, and not a rip, it will work just fine.

On the other hand, if you are the worrying type, just replace it. You will never be happy if you do not.

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Old 11-12-2012, 04:12 PM   #5
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Risked choices

1) Replace the tire. You know, safety on 2 wheels and all that stuff. You got 2/3 expected life out of the tire. That's pretty good.
2) Repair it with a mushroom plug installed from the inside.
3) Tire sealant. Be selective as some cause corrosion to your rims and leave a real mess at tire change time. Ride-on is reputed to be a good product. http://www.ride-on.com/motorcycle-formula-mot.html
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:23 PM   #6
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Tire Repair???

I know guys that would plug it and ride until the cords are showing. I'm just the opposite. I don't mess around when it comes to tires. If they look "iffy," they are. As I only get about 6500 to 7500 out of I tire, I wouldn't even think about it.

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Old 11-12-2012, 04:36 PM   #7
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My favorite is this,

http://www.stopngo.com/categories/Tire-Pluggers/

Others prefer the ropes. I carry both, but will only use the rope as the second resort. I have used plugged tires for the duration of their tread a couple of times. I'm always leery initially and I monitor the tire until I am satisfied the repair is OK. It does help that I have TPMS on my bike.

OTOH, your tire is nearly worn out or at least no less than 2/3 whipped. I think you should just replace it.

Boy, I sure wish that I could get 6K out of a rear tire.
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:32 PM   #8
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What's the current tread depth? If you don't have a tread depth gage they are cheep & available from most auto parts stores. I like this plug... http://www.dynaplug.com/ ... the best for small holes. You should have a kit for road emergencies anyway. I'd probably plug it but order a new one a little early. (the math on what you save)
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:02 PM   #9
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My opionion: Plug it with a sticky string and ride on it. The tire will not push the rope out (ever try to push a string?) There is no catastrophic failure mode here. The worst possible scenario is that the rope would let a little air seep- in other words, you'd be back where you are now.

I've ridden many miles with rope plugged tires, and I can watch their 'health' with my tire pressure monitors. They haven't leaked at all- not a bit. This has given me a lot of confidence in these repairs. When you finally take the tire off you'll find the string has permanently bonded in a mound to the inside of the tire.

I can't say the same for plugs, although lots of people like them. I have seen those fail several times.

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Old 11-12-2012, 07:19 PM   #10
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Can you afford $66 for peace of mind?***

Otherwise...proceed with other options.

***Let's think this through to it's illogical conclusion:
1. Tire fails.
****YOU LOSE FROM THIS POINT FORWARD****************************
2. Bike sustains damage during accident.
3. Bike is repaired by your insurance...minus your ($500?) deductible?
4. You sustain some damage (injury) during this accident.
5. Ambulance, hospital charges exceed $45,000 for your 1 week recuperation.
6. Your boss fired you since you were really needed at work.
7. You injure somebody else and they end up suing you for their personal injury and damage to their car.
8. You're convicted of careless operation of a motor vehicle and serve 60 days in jail.
9. Your boss REALLY doesn't want to know about you...particularly now.
10. Since you have no income for 2 months...you miss a couple mortgage payments...bank forecloses on your home.
11. All your credit cards increase your rate since you defaulted on your mortgage payments.
12. Your FICO score drops to the low 500's.
13. It takes you 4 more months (I'm being generous)...in this BAD economy...to find another job comparable to what you had.
14. You exhaust your 2 months of 'savings' and are forced to BORROW from your wife's family...you didn't have the nerve to tell YOUR family.

I think you can see where this COULD be headed...worst case scenario.

Back to my original question:
Can you afford $66 for peace of mind?
HOPE SO...otherwise park it until you have the $66.

PS..."No" I don't sell insurance...nor TIRES.

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Old 11-14-2012, 04:38 AM   #11
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Can you afford $66 for peace of mind?***

Otherwise...proceed with other options.

***Let's think this through to it's illogical conclusion:
1. Tire fails.
****YOU LOSE FROM THIS POINT FORWARD****************************
2. Bike sustains damage during accident.
3. Bike is repaired by your insurance...minus your ($500?) deductible?
4. You sustain some damage (injury) during this accident.
5. Ambulance, hospital charges exceed $45,000 for your 1 week recuperation.
6. Your boss fired you since you were really needed at work.
7. You injure somebody else and they end up suing you for their personal injury and damage to their car.
8. You're convicted of careless operation of a motor vehicle and serve 60 days in jail.
9. Your boss REALLY doesn't want to know about you...particularly now.
10. Since you have no income for 2 months...you miss a couple mortgage payments...bank forecloses on your home.
11. All your credit cards increase your rate since you defaulted on your mortgage payments.
12. Your FICO score drops to the low 500's.
13. It takes you 4 more months (I'm being generous)...in this BAD economy...to find another job comparable to what you had.
14. You exhaust your 2 months of 'savings' and are forced to BORROW from your wife's family...you didn't have the nerve to tell YOUR family.

I think you can see where this COULD be headed...worst case scenario.

Back to my original question:
Can you afford $66 for peace of mind?
HOPE SO...otherwise park it until you have the $66.

PS..."No" I don't sell insurance...nor TIRES.
New tyres can fail suddenly as well.


A bolt in my tyre, morocco 2007.
Used TWO plugs to fix the hole and rode back to the UK through spain and france (1600 miles), and carried on using it until the tyre wore out.

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Old 11-14-2012, 08:09 AM   #12
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New tyres can fail suddenly as well. ]
Now, that is just mean.
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Old 11-22-2012, 03:49 AM   #13
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Can you afford $66 for peace of mind?***

Otherwise...proceed with other options.

***Let's think this through to it's illogical conclusion:
1. Tire fails.
****YOU LOSE FROM THIS POINT FORWARD****************************
2. Bike sustains damage during accident.
3. Bike is repaired by your insurance...minus your ($500?) deductible?
4. You sustain some damage (injury) during this accident.
5. Ambulance, hospital charges exceed $45,000 for your 1 week recuperation.
6. Your boss fired you since you were really needed at work.
7. You injure somebody else and they end up suing you for their personal injury and damage to their car.
8. You're convicted of careless operation of a motor vehicle and serve 60 days in jail.
9. Your boss REALLY doesn't want to know about you...particularly now.
10. Since you have no income for 2 months...you miss a couple mortgage payments...bank forecloses on your home.
11. All your credit cards increase your rate since you defaulted on your mortgage payments.
12. Your FICO score drops to the low 500's.
13. It takes you 4 more months (I'm being generous)...in this BAD economy...to find another job comparable to what you had.
14. You exhaust your 2 months of 'savings' and are forced to BORROW from your wife's family...you didn't have the nerve to tell YOUR family.

I think you can see where this COULD be headed...worst case scenario.

Back to my original question:
Can you afford $66 for peace of mind?
HOPE SO...otherwise park it until you have the $66.

PS..."No" I don't sell insurance...nor TIRES.

Are you a Insurance salesman?
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:22 AM   #14
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Plug it and ride.

I got a flat several miles from home once, no BMW dealer within 300 miles to source a new tire from and there was little chance the Honda shop 30 miles behind me would have a tire for my GS.
So I put a string plug in and rode forward.

Just outside Chadron, Nebraska (some 100 miles later), the string plug failed. So I put two string plugs in and turned around, there was an open auto repair shop in Chadron. Jimmy, who had never seen a BMW motorcycle (nevermind work on one) mounted the wheel in his tire changer, popped a bead off and installed an internal patch. The wheel was buttoned back up and I rode that tire back to Connecticut and replaced it after a couple thousand more miles.


The moral: If a string plug fails, try two. If you're unsure two will hold, the rear wheel of a GS (and likely any BMW) can be mounted in any shop's tire changer and opened up. An internal patch, with the string plug stubs still in place, will last many thousands of miles.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:02 AM   #15
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Are you a Insurance salesman?
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