Why does the KLR engine suck in HP

beergut · 11-30-2012, 09:03 PM

KTM 640adv:
625cc, 54hp

KLR 650
649cc, 20hp

Honda XR650
644cc, 30-35hp

Suzuki DR650
644cc, 43hp

All of these are estimated and from QUICK google searches and are unmodified engine ratings. One thread said the XR can hit the 45-50hp target pretty easily, the DR isnt far off and the KTM makes everyone laugh.

WHy does the KLR suck so bad? What can make serious improvements?

Echo1 · 11-30-2012, 09:30 PM

I think the info you have is wrong. Here are some MCN dyno tested rear wheel HP specs from the 2012 edition of the MCN performance index:

'10 KTM 690 Enduro R, 46HP

'08 KLR650, 36HP

'07 Honda XR650L, 33HP

'07 Suzuki DR650, 35.6HP

http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/technical/2012JanPerfIndx.pdf

beergut · 11-30-2012, 09:32 PM

it still sucks.

I own one and am trying to make it suck less

jtw000 · 11-30-2012, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beergut

it still sucks.

I own one and am trying to make it suck less

Sell it and buy a bike...

jimmex · 12-12-2012, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beergut

it still sucks.

I own one and am trying to make it suck less

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtw000

Sell it and buy a bike...

Still it can suck and take you to fun and interesting places. Just sayin'.

Off the grid · 12-12-2012, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmex

Still it can suck and take you to fun and interesting places. Just sayin'.

Absolutely.

beergut · 11-30-2012, 09:37 PM

yeah that option is looking very slim at the moment. I had intentions but they are slipping away and if I am going to make it half way not suck, now is the time.

ParaMud · 11-30-2012, 09:37 PM

You guys bought a klr to go fast??

lol

AteamNM · 12-11-2012, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ParaMud

You guys bought a klr to go fast??

lol

Well yeaaaaa, I bought a red one.

I needed to do a mid life crisis fly & ride. I searched all over for a XR650 or DR650. Considered a Vee Strom, but wanted a real ADV touring/off road bike. Found a 06 KLR in Richmond Virginia. Under $3K, owner was accommodating, bike had low mileage, original owner same age as me. Why not, I can always sell it when I get home. It performed great, over 3000 miles, loaded down, snow, rain, wind storms, everything. I spent another $1K on flight, motels, some gear, etc. So for a bit over $4000 bucks, I bought a reliable bike, I rode it from Virginia to NM camping and whatnot. I don't think I can replace it now that I have it. I have a XR250 which is an awesome trail bike and street legal. I think I want a DR400. Then I have a RMAR bike in the Suzuki 400, a long distance touring pig with the KLR and the XR for blasting away in the local single track. Point is, a poor mans KTM/BMW. It will do anything, just does it poorly.

Video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IenxK...e8jf4vnTyh5Ctg

HellSickle · 12-11-2012, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AteamNM

Well yeaaaaa, I bought a red one.

Bad news. That particular shade of red is known as DDR (Dog Dick Red).

I have one. And three KTMs. Consider me conflicted.

DirtDad · 12-11-2012, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellSickle

Bad news. That particular shade of red is known as DDR (Dog Dick Red).

I have one. And three KTMs. Consider me conflicted.

Well I guess I am conflicted also! I got a KLR! And a few other motorcycles. One of them is even orange.

Funny, the latest issue of Dirt Bike magazine has a test on a 2011 modded KLR.

Also, the person who modded the KLR, happens to own several other bikes, BMW, KTM, Gas Gas, etc...
and he happens to be a very experienced rider. Guess he should have read this thread before modifying
his KLR.

Myfuture_yourdebt · 12-11-2012, 05:18 PM

OK so you've been following this thread and don't think anyone's been trolling it. Good for you. Why are you posting here again? Just to tell me I'm mistaken? Surely you have some better reason for making a "contribution" to this forum with ever post. Or did you get all 10k posts from "here's your mistake" -type posts (i.e. posts with no discernible content)?

Grreatdog · 12-11-2012, 05:24 PM

Thick skin was a dealer option only available in the sense of humor package.

Myfuture_yourdebt · 12-11-2012, 07:44 PM

Who's joking around in this thread? The OP seemed sincere. Certainly there's been a few jabs like in any ADVRider thread especially those about KLRs...it wouldn't be ADVRider without that. Those people aren't trolling like Off the grid. He's doing the usual roosting plus an extra heaping pile of steaming BS. In all reality, I think he just has same that he ever bought and/or rode a KLR650 because his own standards are so high now that he "knows better"

Like I said, I could go spew the same sort of crap in KTM threads...and how quickly do you think I'd get banned just because I dared dishonor the Church of Orange Kool-Aid?

Sierra Thumper · 12-12-2012, 01:31 AM

I have to say.....regardless of what I think of the human behavorial side of this thread, this is one of the funniest things I've read in ages.....I'm laughing my ass off here

I'm not sure if thats a good thing or bad

......but it sure as hell is very very funny

Now continue on

11-30-2012, 09:03 PM	#1
beergut ^OP Thumper Joined: Dec 2009 Location: Indiana Oddometer: 349	Why does the KLR engine suck in HP KTM 640adv: 625cc, 54hp KLR 650 649cc, 20hp Honda XR650 644cc, 30-35hp Suzuki DR650 644cc, 43hp All of these are estimated and from QUICK google searches and are unmodified engine ratings. One thread said the XR can hit the 45-50hp target pretty easily, the DR isnt far off and the KTM makes everyone laugh. WHy does the KLR suck so bad? What can make serious improvements?

11-30-2012, 09:37 PM	#8
ParaMud Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2008 Location: Orange, CA Oddometer: 442	You guys bought a klr to go fast?? lol __________________ 04 KLR 650 07 KLR 650 06 sv650s 07 Ducati Monster

12-11-2012, 05:24 PM	#13
Grreatdog Beastly Adventurer Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Oddometer: 5,604	Thick skin was a dealer option only available in the sense of humor package. __________________ KTM 640 LC4E KTM 200 MXC XT200

12-12-2012, 01:31 AM	#15
Sierra Thumper Studly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2012 Oddometer: 641	I have to say.....regardless of what I think of the human behavorial side of this thread, this is one of the funniest things I've read in ages.....I'm laughing my ass off here I'm not sure if thats a good thing or bad ......but it sure as hell is very very funny Now continue on __________________ "Don't get so concerned with the slab that you choose a turd for the dirt"- The Gospel as spoken by itrack

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11-30-2012, 09:30 PM	#2
Echo1 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2006 Oddometer: 263	I think the info you have is wrong. Here are some MCN dyno tested rear wheel HP specs from the 2012 edition of the MCN performance index: '10 KTM 690 Enduro R, 46HP '08 KLR650, 36HP '07 Honda XR650L, 33HP '07 Suzuki DR650, 35.6HP http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/technical/2012JanPerfIndx.pdf

11-30-2012, 09:32 PM	#3
beergut ^OP Thumper Joined: Dec 2009 Location: Indiana Oddometer: 349	it still sucks. I own one and am trying to make it suck less

12-11-2012, 05:18 PM	#12
Myfuture_yourdebt Banned Joined: Jun 2011 Location: Front Range, CO Oddometer: 372	OK so you've been following this thread and don't think anyone's been trolling it. Good for you. Why are you posting here again? Just to tell me I'm mistaken? Surely you have some better reason for making a "contribution" to this forum with ever post. Or did you get all 10k posts from "here's your mistake" -type posts (i.e. posts with no discernible content)?

12-11-2012, 07:44 PM	#14
Myfuture_yourdebt Banned Joined: Jun 2011 Location: Front Range, CO Oddometer: 372	Who's joking around in this thread? The OP seemed sincere. Certainly there's been a few jabs like in any ADVRider thread especially those about KLRs...it wouldn't be ADVRider without that. Those people aren't trolling like Off the grid. He's doing the usual roosting plus an extra heaping pile of steaming BS. In all reality, I think he just has same that he ever bought and/or rode a KLR650 because his own standards are so high now that he "knows better" Like I said, I could go spew the same sort of crap in KTM threads...and how quickly do you think I'd get banned just because I dared dishonor the Church of Orange Kool-Aid?