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Old 12-29-2012, 04:22 AM   #1
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Does any one have the GPS track for the TOUR OF IDAHO CHALLENGE that works with BaseCamp THANKS TOM
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:12 PM   #2
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:02 PM   #3
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Does any one have the GPS track for the TOUR OF IDAHO CHALLENGE that works with BaseCamp THANKS TOM
Rick, went ot web site could not mind any tracks, sems to be a navagation contest.
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:57 PM   #4
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Rick, went ot web site could not mind any tracks, sems to be a navagation contest.
From this page:

http://www.motorcyclejazz.com/TID_Route_Description.htm

there are seven gpx files linked.

http://www.motorcyclejazz.com/gpx/T1_D1.gpx
http://www.motorcyclejazz.com/gpx/T1_D2.gpx
http://www.motorcyclejazz.com/gpx/T1_D3.gpx
http://www.motorcyclejazz.com/gpx/T1_D4.gpx
http://www.motorcyclejazz.com/gpx/T1_D5.gpx
http://www.motorcyclejazz.com/gpx/T1_D6.gpx
http://www.motorcyclejazz.com/gpx/T1_D7.gpx

These appear to be a sequence of waypoints so one will have to create an actual track from them. Not sure what the point of that. They look pretty detailed, ie. close together, so I don't think there will be much mystery about the correct path.
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:22 PM   #5
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From this page:

http://www.motorcyclejazz.com/TID_Route_Description.htm

These appear to be a sequence of waypoints so one will have to create an actual track from them. Not sure what the point of that. They look pretty detailed, ie. close together, so I don't think there will be much mystery about the correct path.
Wow these are ugly beyond belief. Can any of those smart guys with some fancy program make them into tracks? Based on other threads, I assume if they were connected into a route, BaseCamp can convert that to a track.

I looked and looked and never found these .gpx files.
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Wow these are ugly beyond belief. Can any of those smart guys with some fancy program make them into tracks? Based on other threads, I assume if they were connected into a route, BaseCamp can convert that to a track.
GPSBabel can do the conversion, but it needs a bit of fine tuning. These gpx files were created by National Geographic TOPO and include not only the main route but one or more alternates. The alternate paths confuse the GPSBabel conversion and that is where the fine tuning comes in. Even with the alternate paths removed, the main track is 511 points - an inconvenient number. I have only looked at the first section - D1 - and it follows some existing roads here and there so I'm sure the number of points can be safely reduced. Overall, the track looks fine. Some of the altitude data seems mangled by the conversion process.

http://www.motorcyclejazz.com/TID_FAQ.htm explains their feeling about the gpx format. A little silly, IMO.

I will continue to work on these. I have the first segment nearly done, just adding the alternate paths. If anyone is interested, let me know.
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GPSBabel can do the conversion, but it needs a bit of fine tuning. These gpx files were created by National Geographic TOPO and include not only the main route but one or more alternates. The alternate paths confuse the GPSBabel conversion and that is where the fine tuning comes in. Even with the alternate paths removed, the main track is 511 points - an inconvenient number. I have only looked at the first section - D1 - and it follows some existing roads here and there so I'm sure the number of points can be safely reduced. Overall, the track looks fine. Some of the altitude data seems mangled by the conversion process.

http://www.motorcyclejazz.com/TID_FAQ.htm explains their feeling about the gpx format. A little silly, IMO.

I will continue to work on these. I have the first segment nearly done, just adding the alternate paths. If anyone is interested, let me know.
Hey Phil in Seattle. It's plumb groovy that you managed to find things you found "silly" about our FAQ while ignoring reams of data that represent about a decade's worth of work - none of which cost you a dime. I guess that free served up with the expectation of a modicum of manners and intelligence is expecting too much in some cases. In fact, had you bothered to visit the reader forum or visit the Facebook page you would have seen that most of what you want me to do for you has already been done by others.

Since you didn't pay any heed to the volumes of advice we provided about T1, T2 and T3, and find our views "silly," I'll leave it up to you to discover why you are quite wrong about reducing the number of waypoints. Should you, by some miracle, make it to the Tour flagpole I would not stop wearing any kind of a sign that says "I am Phil from Seattle" unless you want an Idaho boot applied to your fanny.

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Old 01-26-2013, 12:20 PM   #8
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Good job. They will all fit in one file. I also added some more fun options on Day 6.
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File Type: gpx Idaho 2013 Tracks.gpx (926.5 KB, 148 views)
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:22 PM   #9
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Like I said above, I would never do this without very good liability insurance coverage and tons of disclaimers that you must agree to before you can get to the data on line. Just like license agreements for software.
There are thousands of tour guides published each year with maps and directions. I doubt they have bought any kind of liability insurance. Most of our tracks are on public roads, forest roads and the occasional private farm. I don't see where your liability is. If I tell you to ride up I-5 to Seattle and give you directions to my house and you have a wreck, I wouldn't be liable.

What do I not understand?
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There are thousands of tour guides published each year with maps and directions. I doubt they have bought any kind of liability insurance.

I don't see where your liability is. If I tell you to ride up I-5 to Seattle and give you directions to my house and you have a wreck, I wouldn't be liable. What do I not understand?
I am away for winter so I can't check any of my books but I would bet that every one of them have big disclaimer section. As to insurance, if you have any assets, and if you get so far as publishing books and you have not formed an LLC or purchased at least umbrella insurance, you are a fool.

It doesn't matter what you see, it is all up to the injured party. If they file a cival claim, you pay to defend yourself or pay the claim. In most cases it is cheaper to pay the claim. I was on the board of directers of AMA District 37, a road rider drove straight off the highway at a curve and filed a claim against Suzuki, Dunlap, and AMA. Our insurance just paid the guy. An enduro rider cut the course, crashed in a hole, our insurance paid. Without insurance we would have been out a lot of money paying or defending.
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Old 03-26-2013, 03:55 PM   #11
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Question Tour of Idaho 2 gpx tracks?

Howdy All,

I am searching for a readily available Tour of Idaho 2 in gpx track format. I went to motorcyclejazz's site and downloaded the xml file, then converted it to gpx, then imported it to basecamp, then tried to create a route from the points; but it just wasn't the output I was looking for.

Does anyone have Tour of Idaho 2 in a cleaned up gpx track format?

Thanks.

P.S.: Thanks Motorcyclejazz for putting this all toghether. I have ridden some of these roads already, like the first 100 miles or so. Good choice on that route. I can't wait to do this.
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Did you look at threads below?

I don't know what threads you are referencing by "threads below." I've found the gpx tracks listed within this thread, but they are just for T1, not T2.

It won't be that much trouble to build a track from the way points listed on T2 while in Basecamp. I just thought perhaps this work had already been done here on this site, so I asked. I'll get to work on it.
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I don't know what threads you are referencing by "threads below." I've found the gpx tracks listed within this thread, but they are just for T1, not T2.
Threads below are threads with Idaho in them below like:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=10
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Threads below are threads with Idaho in them below like:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=10

Thanks a bunch Countdown. Looks great.
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