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Old 12-29-2012, 04:56 PM   #1
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Best 4 door sedan/small suv

My trusty 1990 mazda 626 has seen better days. I need a newer family car. I am looking to replace it with a import 4 door sedan or maybe small suv. Been looking at Camrys, Accords,mazda 6's, hyundai santa fe's. I am not interested in domestic crap. I am looking to spend maximum 15K. Any good recomendations?
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Old 12-29-2012, 05:30 PM   #2
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Camry = boring. For that kind of money you can buy a fun car. The Honda is a marginally better step. The Mazdas are nice. Hyundais are generally amazing for the price. KIAs (new ones) are decent (Hyundai owns them and has been fixing their ills over the last several years). I've had excellent service from Subarus but the styling on new ones is a big turn-off. Mitsubishi's suck. Suzuki has bailed from our shores. Volvos cost a fortune to fix (and DO break).

Your reluctance to consider domestic cars is misguided. I was an import-only guy for nearly forever, but replaced our last Subaru with a Jeep Patriot (redeemed because it's a stick shift, not the dopey CVT). Extensive research proved it's surprisingly well built and beats Subarus by far on fuel mileage. Was able to drive several Ford products recently and was very impressed. When is the last time you really looked at domestic offerings? If they could sway me over, they can sway almost anyone (and I'm in the car business).
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Old 12-29-2012, 05:33 PM   #3
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Ford Escape, and they're everywhere in Victoria.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:57 PM   #4
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Ford Escape, and they're everywhere in Victoria.
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My V6 model is pretty thirsty though. I would personally get a sedan of some sort but if you decide on a small SUV these are pretty competent.
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Old 12-30-2012, 03:46 AM   #5
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Ford Escape, and they're everywhere in Victoria.
Saskatoon was absolutely ripe with them when I lived there. Had a few coworkers with them, and they all loved 'em.

I pooh-poohed 'merican cars for decades, but picked up an older Focus a couple of years ago, which has been a great car. A recent Ford is an excellent value on the used market.
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Old 12-30-2012, 05:14 AM   #6
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Why not a Subaru Impreza? Or Legacy, if you need the room? They're pretty much tops in reliability, at least in my experience, and they are pretty good all around cars.
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:07 AM   #7
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I had an Escape but sold it to buy a BMW R1200R it was a great little vehicle but with the six banger the fuel consumption was 22ish mpg. I found that stupid. Why drive a dink car that gets that kind of mileage when my Silverado full size up gets 17?

After I delt the Escape I inherited the wife's '93 Civic that she bought new and I drove it until this March when I sold it with 360k mi. Reliable as a bag of hammers but very domestic.

I replaced it with a '09 Scion XB toastermobile. Again pretty domestic and has so far been reliable and gets 28-30 mpg. It is not super luxurious but it is very serviceable, it just works. I was never a big Toyota fan then Mrs. easy bought a Prius on '07 I was wrong, I freely admit it. Good car but not for everyone. She's put 160k mi on it and we have had zero issues with it.

I don't know that I would call any of the above "best" ( I might call thenRR best but I'm biased) but they have treated us well. Just a couple thoughts for ya
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:16 AM   #8
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WTF? 2 pages and not one mention of BMW? Everybody here knows they make the "best" cars out there. Fine examples of The Ultimate Driving Machine can be purchased for 15k and it only costs 10% of that per annum to keep it running. Chump change.
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:13 AM   #9
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I am actually buying a used Lexus es330. If you look you can find them in your price range. I am picking up a 2006 with 54k miles for 15k on Monday. All the reliability of the Camry without being boring.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:31 PM   #10
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My trusty 1990 mazda 626 has seen better days. I need a newer family car. I am looking to replace it with a import 4 door sedan or maybe small suv. Been looking at Camrys, Accords,mazda 6's, hyundai santa fe's. I am not interested in domestic crap. I am looking to spend maximum 15K. Any good recomendations?
Yes. Put your prejudice aside and objectively compare a 2010 and later Ford Fusion to any of the other cars you mentioned. Great build quality, very reliable, and a very European feel behind the wheel without the European repair costs. Additionally, you'll get more car for your money compared to a Toyota or Honda because there are still people out there like you who think buying Japanese is the only way to get a reliable car.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:36 PM   #11
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Outlander

Real happy with our 2010 Mitsubishi Outlander 4x4 4 cylinder CVT. Not sure what 2 nd hand ones are going for.
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Old 12-29-2012, 07:10 PM   #12
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The Hyundai Santa Fe is a great vehicle. Many fine examples should be available at your price point.

Bought a nice used 2005 Santa Fe for my daughter in 2008, $14,000 and 90,000 miles, to take to college and it is still going strong at 200,000 miles four years later.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:10 PM   #13
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My V6 model is pretty thirsty though. I would personally get a sedan of some sort but if you decide on a small SUV these are pretty competent.
+2

I've only driven the four cylinder model (a 2010 model) and I was pleasantly surprised how good it was. And I usually dislike the "domestic crap".

I still avoid the Korean brands, though. They seem like good cars when they're new but my personal experience is that they still aren't built to the same level of fit and finish as Honda and Toyota and it shows after 3 or 4 years. YMMV
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:27 PM   #14
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I've only driven the four cylinder model (a 2010 model) and I was pleasantly surprised how good it was. And I usually dislike the "domestic crap".

I still avoid the Korean brands, though. They seem like good cars when they're new but my personal experience is that they still aren't built to the same level of fit and finish as Honda and Toyota and it shows after 3 or 4 years. YMMV
Good call on the Korean brands. They seem to age worse than Lindsey Lohan.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:52 PM   #15
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Civic, Accord, CRV, Pilot, etc. I guess i'm saying to buy a Honda.

If only they would build a full size truck.
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