Help with oill filter removal!!!

qman8 · 01-01-2013, 08:24 AM

A quick forum search revealed no related items.....
I just cant seem to get the damn oil filter off my 09 1200GS. I've tried the old screwdriver poked thru it method ...just ripped it up and it did not budge. I broke TWO filter wrenches...One while trying to torque it off with a 1/2 inch ratchet! I was using all the muscle I had at that time when it snapped! I had let the bike cool for several days after the oil drain before I was able to get back at trying to remove the filter. Would a cold (winter) engine and filter prevent me from turning this damn thing??? Cant run the engine to heat things up now with a broken filter !
The dealer put the last filter on...maybe he used a friggin impact driver!!!????

One person suggested buying the cup type wrench and drilling several holes thru it and thru the bottom of the filter, then run sheet metal screws thru both, and then try wrenching it!
That might be my next try!

Any help is appreciated!
Thanks

mouthfulloflake · 01-01-2013, 08:28 AM

Ive used the 3 screws method before, straight up into the filter, and outside of the center 1" or so to avoid the mounting boss

just be careful down there.

I recall reading where someguy used the screwdriver through the filter method and cracked the engine case down there.

LaurelPerryOnLand · 01-01-2013, 08:28 AM

With all that effort....are you sure:

You're TURNING in the correct direction?

Left to loosey...Right to tightee?

Otherwise...never mind.

larryboy · 01-01-2013, 08:40 AM

I've had one fight me on my 1150, before I tore up the filter too much I welded a nut on the filter and got that thing out of there, put it on myself and can't explain why it wouldn't come off.

qman8 · 01-01-2013, 08:59 AM

Unless BMW has left-hand threads on the filter....I wouldnt put such a thing past those Teutonic geniuses. These are the same guys who designed the 3 different fasteners to secure the bash plate!
Looking at the new filter's threads, NO, I was turning (or trying to turn) in the proper direction.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaurelPerryOnLand

With all that effort....are you sure:

You're TURNING in the correct direction?

Left to loosey...Right to tightee?

Otherwise...never mind.

Traveling QMS · 01-02-2013, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaurelPerryOnLand

With all that effort....are you sure:

You're TURNING in the correct direction?

Left to loosey...Right to tightee?

Otherwise...never mind.

Slight distraction here,

A fellow I went to high school with had a hard time removing the oil drain plug on his car. Wrench didn't provide enough leverage, so on to the ratchet, then the bigger ratchet, then the 3/4 drive breaker bar. His father had plenty of tools to choose from.

Well that plug came out with a nice size chunk of the oil pan. Poor guy had a hard time living this one down after a history of other major errors. He was stronger than most of his classmates at the time, just not very bright when it came to mechanical theory.

He went on to make good for himself and the community. Others do all mechanical work for him now.

kimokk · 01-01-2013, 09:21 AM

Did you try a strap wrench? It might be tight but worth a try. Maybe heat up the filter with mini butane torch.

Happy BMW · 01-01-2013, 09:44 AM

can you post a picture that would help a little. when yu put new filters on are you lubeing the filter first?

GS Addict · 01-01-2013, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy BMW

can you post a picture that would help a little. when yu put new filters on are you lubeing the filter first?

Read his post:
"The dealer put the last filter on...maybe he used a friggin impact driver!!!???"

holckster · 01-01-2013, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimokk

Maybe heat up the filter with mini butane torch.

NO !!!

Oil is flamable.
Heat gun maybe.
Have fire extinguisher handy.
Good Luck

larryboy · 01-01-2013, 03:17 PM

I clearly see enough room to get a chisel on the filter mounting flange, get to work and take it off already.

qman8 · 01-01-2013, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larryboy

I clearly see enough room to get a chisel on the filter mounting flange, get to work and take it off already.

Can you give more detail as to what you mean by "the filter mounting flange"??
I assume you mean to remove the filter skin and start beating on the main frame part with the holes and threads???
Thanks

larryboy · 01-01-2013, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qman8

Can you give more detail as to what you mean by "the filter mounting flange"??
I assume you mean to remove the filter skin and start beating on the main frame part with the holes and threads???
Thanks

Leave the filter alone, the flange/lip of the filter closest to the engine, a little different color in that picture...chisel on that, trying to twist the filter once it crumples is wasted energy. If you just barely move it, it will come out.

Britome · 01-01-2013, 10:37 AM

Go to autozone and the the wrench adapter that has 3 fingers that hand down and gets progressively tighter on any oil filter as you tighten/loosen.

larryboy · 01-01-2013, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Britome

Go to autozone and the the wrench adapter that has 3 fingers that hand down and gets progressively tighter on any oil filter as you tighten/loosen.

Won't fit.

Weld nut on end of filter, take off, done.

01-01-2013, 08:24 AM	#1
qman8 ^OP GS09 Joined: Jan 2012 Location: ohio Oddometer: 231	Help with oill filter removal!!! A quick forum search revealed no related items..... I just cant seem to get the damn oil filter off my 09 1200GS. I've tried the old screwdriver poked thru it method ...just ripped it up and it did not budge. I broke TWO filter wrenches...One while trying to torque it off with a 1/2 inch ratchet! I was using all the muscle I had at that time when it snapped! I had let the bike cool for several days after the oil drain before I was able to get back at trying to remove the filter. Would a cold (winter) engine and filter prevent me from turning this damn thing??? Cant run the engine to heat things up now with a broken filter ! The dealer put the last filter on...maybe he used a friggin impact driver!!!???? One person suggested buying the cup type wrench and drilling several holes thru it and thru the bottom of the filter, then run sheet metal screws thru both, and then try wrenching it! That might be my next try! Any help is appreciated! Thanks

01-01-2013, 08:28 AM	#2
mouthfulloflake Not afraid Joined: Aug 2008 Location: N.W. Arkansas Oddometer: 11,254	Ive used the 3 screws method before, straight up into the filter, and outside of the center 1" or so to avoid the mounting boss just be careful down there. I recall reading where someguy used the screwdriver through the filter method and cracked the engine case down there. __________________ "A little inaccuracy sometimes saves a ton of explanation." - H. H. Munro (Saki) (1870-1916)

01-01-2013, 08:28 AM	#3
LaurelPerryOnLand Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2009 Location: Denver, CO Oddometer: 2,416	I dare not ask...but I will... With all that effort....are you sure: You're TURNING in the correct direction? Left to loosey...Right to tightee? Otherwise...never mind.

01-01-2013, 09:21 AM	#7
kimokk Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2009 Location: NOVA Oddometer: 103	Did you try a strap wrench? It might be tight but worth a try. Maybe heat up the filter with mini butane torch. __________________ '09 BMW R1200GSA Adventure! IBA #49426

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01-01-2013, 08:40 AM	#4
larryboy Paint it black. Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Über Alles,Ca Oddometer: 12,870	I've had one fight me on my 1150, before I tore up the filter too much I welded a nut on the filter and got that thing out of there, put it on myself and can't explain why it wouldn't come off.

01-01-2013, 09:44 AM	#8
Happy BMW Litter Box Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Whitefish MT Oddometer: 50	can you post a picture that would help a little. when yu put new filters on are you lubeing the filter first?

01-01-2013, 03:17 PM	#11
larryboy Paint it black. Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Über Alles,Ca Oddometer: 12,870	I clearly see enough room to get a chisel on the filter mounting flange, get to work and take it off already.

01-01-2013, 10:37 AM	#14
Britome Get Free Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Cincinnati, OH Oddometer: 722	Go to autozone and the the wrench adapter that has 3 fingers that hand down and gets progressively tighter on any oil filter as you tighten/loosen.