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Old 01-05-2013, 01:42 AM   #1
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2013 Dakar Cliff Notes thread

Ladies, Gentlemen,

this is ADVrider's traditional Dakar Cliff Notes thread. Its purpose is to offer the day's most important information and media, interviews and tweets that show up all over ADV and the rest of the net.

The Official Event Coverage thread - aka the firehose - will be moving at a brisk pace and will be hard to follow for all but the most desperate fans.

This thread will be locked, so that only moderators can post here. The mods will try to move the most informative posts here and we hope that the result is something everyone can follow.

Welcome, and a great Dakar to all - Racers, teams, lurkers and posters!
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Hello Packmule, was wondering when you would show up

I think now all we need is Brimstone and we are good to go.

Stage 1

Special start (local GMT -5) 11h40



Here is the route, not difficult to work out this time, thanks to the map provided by the organisation. Anticlockwise, in red, its more of a short endurance loop with a few dune crossings, its in a zone frequented by dune buggies and rails. I normally dont put this stuff out the day before but given the tail of the field are opening the course, I dont think they have the means to make this useful by this time...










In respect of getting a more precise picture out there of each special I think it is going to be very difficult this year.

Looks like they are going to screw the Google earth mapping nuts (like me), by duping everyone into where the Dakar special is not going to be running by publishing even more inaccurate maps. I have spent the past hour trying every which way to get some proper maps and distance tables off the official website, like IL SS FL etc - no can do, not even on the french site. Any bright sparks out there have a hotline to someone who can help us from the ASO?

What I have found are some basic maps, but none of the usual long sections with the distances... Im hoping against hope that they actually publish them in some kind of live popup on the day..otherwise we will have a lot of F5ers twiddling thumbs...The maps are a joke with only the liaisons being more precisley shown but the specials with a only a very vague flamboyant line, which I do not believe is anything line the actual route except the general direction over the course of the route.

So you see what I mean look at Stage 2 & 3 below, both start from the same bivouac near Pisco





Im getting ahead of myself I know.
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Podium ceremony in Lima starts at 8:00 AM local time, the timed 13km prologue loop starts at 11:40 local:

Local time in Peru


Peru TV broadcast will start at 7:00 (15 minutes from now):

http://www.tvperu.gob.pe/tvperuenvivo/senal-hd.html

New for 2013: The bike's prologue/SS1 times will e multiplied by a factor of 5, cars by factor 3 to ensure everyone goes full speed and no one holds back for a better starting position in SS2.
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ADVRider ighlights from the Ceremonial start podium

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manuelito made it to the start! Gooo manuel!!!




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inmate johnny campbell is on!

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F5 vid clip-to-ADV skills are at an even higher level this year. Many have been in training. Impressive.

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Okay time to upload my screen shots that I was able to catch

Warren Strange #131 with Richard de Groot from NLD


#175 DAMDINKHORLOO BOLDBAATAR (MNG) - With a name like that how cany ou not follow him??



#91 Glen Grundy RSA



#101 Ingo Waldschmidt Nam



#89 Brett Cummings


#29 on Coma's bike - Kurt Casselli
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We shall certainly see if Barreda has honed his opening-the-course skills today

IIRC he did so in Morocco, but lost time on those occasions. How much remains to be seen.
I think the big performer today will be Helder. Cyril is a sly desert fox, he will be looking to stay in touch and conserve as much energy as possible

Or something like that
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Morning all,

We were hoping Glen Grundy was going to make it because he was not on the withdrawal list. So I open facebook and this is what I see


Glen Grundy


Hey all. Interesting last 24 hours...I had a great 165 km start, transit and racing stage, and at 85km into the special, the Honda's engine blew up. Long line of oil behind me in the desert. Sat there until midnight, when the sweeper loaded my bike. I chased away the chopper twice, which wanted to load me, waiting for my backup to bring some assistance. It was not to be...Policeman brought me back to the bivouac, where it's 5am, and all waking up. My role will now adjust from Moto pilot, to team assistance and support. That's the way the world works sometimes. Ready to go to the dance, but no dancing shoes!!! Brett now has a personal skivvy, for the next 2 weeks. I will send pics and details shortly.



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trucks trying to climb a dune, stage 1





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Portuguese rider Ruben Faria (KTM) has stopped in the stage before the 6 km. Nothing can explain this judgment for the moment, it is obviously a technical problem.



Yeah, sure. NOTHING can explain.
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The Manuel Lucchese relief fund

I'll re-tell the story quicky for those who couldn't follow.

Inmate Manuel Lucchese lost his main sponsor, bought a used TM rally bike 1 day before they had to ship it from Le Havre, had someone pay for his flight to Lima, sweet-talked the airline crew to accept his spare engine as a musical instrument (!) and carry-on, then found someone on FB who let him sleep in his place in Lima.

In short, he's on a shoe-string budget without shoe strings. Or shoes.

Yesterday he posted on FB that he's off scouring the bivouac looking for a used (!) set of mousses for the next couple of stages.

ADV Team F5 jumps at the opportunity to help out, Sandi Spears contacts Team Freedom Rally Racing in the bivouac, Manuel gets a new set of Mousse. We are set to get him through that race.

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Anyone who wants to donate to the Manny fund can Paypal to sales@motopeak.com. This is my business account, I'll pay the fees as you can't donate (no pp fees) to a business, that's ok. Please put "Manny" in the subject.

When we hit $1400-$100 (my donation)=$1300, I'll refund anything after that and make sure Dave gets Manuel the cash. Will post a total as we get close.

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Morning, everyone!

OK, it looks like I woke up at exactly the right time. Just checked paypal, and you all have been generous- I have ~$1320 since last night, and Dave has $1440 for me, so we're close enough to perfect.

Let's stop with donations until we have a plan to get Manuel dinero by some other route. If I see anything else come in, I'll ask here what to do, I can refund, or if we have a plan for how to make it available to Manuel, we can do that.

Now to catch up on the firehose...
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I spoke with Juan Carlos Salvatierra (@chavo_mx1) this evening. He was moving well early in the stage up to 14th at WP3 and then lost the stator and spent an hour and a half in the dunes changing it out but lives to fight on another day. Naturally he is massively disappointed especially as he had the same problem in Sardegna. His team mate Eduardo Heinrich stopped to help him as I believe did Johnny Campbell. His spirits sound good and I assured him we were pulling for him.

For those that don't know, Chavo is an inmate here riding a Honda (#50) for Team Honda Europe.
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Tracking page upgrades

For those of you in Cliff Notes land, here's an awesome page that inmate Mischa Visser has been working on and improving for several years now.

Great one-stop-shop for seeing the race timing in an easy to digest manner.

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You probably read I have been working on some new toy. It isn't finished yet, but I love it myself already, so I wanted to share it with you. Don't shoot me if things don't work yet.

What is it? A combined overview of all stats I have: waypoints, checkpoints, stage results. I got tired of clicking around over the different pages, sometimes even finding out different results on different pages. I tried to combine all the good stuff together into 1 page.

Filters or stage selectors are still missing, but for now this must be great:

http://monitor.trackingdakar.nl/

or if that doesn't work yet

http://trackingdakar.nl/monitor.php

I think you will understand what you are going to see. A few remarks:

Please consider this as beta stuff. Always keep an eye on the official results or other sources. Positions are calculated, so they can differ from the official site. It's just to get an idea how everybody is doing and maybe, maybe ;-) it can produce better data than the official.

Waypoints and checkpoints are hidden as long as nobody passed them. This is a technical issue at this moment. On the other side it's hard to determine which CP/WP comes first. This should do well enough and you all know what to expect anyway :-)

Have fun and.... don't kill my server. The page hasn't been optimzed yet :-) So, take care with F5!
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Chaleco Lopez takes the stage!

Pos. N° Name Mark Time variation Penalty
7
LOPEZ (CHL)
KTM
02:37:54 - -
20
GONÇALVES (PRT)
HUSQVARNA
02:39:02 00:01:08 -
1
DESPRES (FRA)
KTM
02:42:02 00:04:08 -
18
PRZYGONSKI (POL)
KTM
02:43:14 00:05:20 -
15
VERHOEVEN (NLD)
YAMAHA
02:45:16 00:07:22 -
9
PAIN (FRA)
YAMAHA
02:45:22 00:07:28 -
8
ULLEVALSETER (NOR)
KTM
02:46:24 00:08:30 -
6
SVITKO (SVK)
KTM
02:46:52 00:08:58 -
92
ISRAEL ESQUERRE (CHL)
HONDA
02:47:32 00:09:38 -
14
DUCLOS (FRA)
SHERCO
02:48:48 00:10:54 -
10
CASTEU (FRA)
YAMAHA
02:50:02 00:12:08 -
4
VILADOMS (ESP)
HUSQVARNA
02:50:25 00:12:31 -
37
CURTIS (ZAF)
KTM
02:52:52 00:14:58 -
11
FARIA (PRT)
KTM
02:56:03 00:18:09 -
29
CASELLI (USA)
KTM
03:01:41 00:23:47 -
12
PEDRERO (ESP)
KTM
03:07:17 00:29:23 -
39
FISH (AUS)
HUQSVARNA
03:07:46 00:29:52 -
5
BARREDA BORT (ESP)
HUSQVARNA
03:10:56 00:33:02 -
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