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Old 01-28-2013, 12:01 PM   #1
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Another year of harrassment for California motorcyclists?

I see that all the grant money has been handed out by the state for "safety" enforcement on motorcyclists. Even though we have this data:


"The grant will assist in efforts to deal with traffic safety problems and to reduce the number of persons killed and injured in traffic collisions. While traffic deaths from all causes declined by nearly 39 percent between 2006 and 2010 in California, state and federal officials anticipate that figures will show a slight rise in 2011. DUI deaths remain the largest sector, at nearly 30 percent of traffic fatalities. Recent trends show increases in two new categories – distracted driving and drug-impaired driving."


From here:

http://elkgrove.patch.com/articles/m...g-to-elk-grove


A quick google search turns up articles over the last month for pretty much every city in California.

I noticed a distrubing trend during Motorcycle Awareness month last year. Out of all the motorcycles that I would see during my riding around, a solid 85% of them were on the side of the road with the police inlcuding me. I don't think that is what's intended by "motorcycle awareness" campaigns.


I really don't see why motorcyclists are included in this grouping?


Activities that the grant will fund include:
  • Specialized DUI and drugged driving training such as Standardized Field Sobriety Testing (SFST), Advanced Roadside Impaired Driving Enforcement (ARIDE), and Drug Recognition Evaluator (DRE).
  • DUI Saturation Patrols
  • Motorcycle safety enforcement
  • Speed, red light and stop sign enforcement
Motorcycles are an extremely small segment of registered vehicles in California...800,000 motorcycles versus 22 million others.


Things I'm going to do to prepare for another year of harrassment...light and safety check of every bike before I leave the house. We all get lax, I'll get that turn signal bulb this weekend...tire is about bald, but it's summer, I'll run it a little longer. Got my new tag in the mail, but it looks like it's good until the end of the month, it's not.


Gotta have my ducks in a row because I'm gonna be one mouthy SOB the next time I get pulled over.


I routinely see drivers smoking weed driving down the road and they're gonna pick on me because I ride a motorcycle?
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:07 PM   #2
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...Gotta have my ducks in a row because I'm gonna be one mouthy SOB the next time I get pulled over. ...

No fuckin way...
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:20 PM   #3
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How are you getting motorcycle harrasement out of that article? There's just one bullet point stating that part of the grant goes to "Motorcycle safety enforcement."

At least in the LA area, cops seem pretty easy on motorcyclists. The last time I got pulled over the cop asked me why I did what I just did. I told him that I had no excuse, that it was stupid mistake, and he let me go.

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Old 01-29-2013, 05:46 PM   #4
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At least in the LA area, cops seem pretty easy on motorcyclists. The last time I got pulled over the cop asked me why I did what I just did. I told him that I had no excuse, that it was stupid mistake, and he let me go.
unless you're on a sportbike, down here in LA proper they pretty much just look the other way - and even then they pretty much look the other way.

They never even look twice at the 1150 - its too ugly.....they think they are going to turn to stone
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:26 PM   #5
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Ha!

I thought something was going on.

I live in Indiana and just started riding again last spring.

I was pulled over twice in 2012.

I have been pulled once in a car - since 1985.

Hmmm.

No ticket either time. I think they pulled me over because I had a helmet on.
In Indiana it seems not many people wear helmets (I refer to them as "squids").

So maybe they want to see what a real helmet and real riding gear looks like up close? :)
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:13 PM   #6
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Ha!

I thought something was going on.

I live in Indiana and just started riding again last spring.

I was pulled over twice in 2012.

I have been pulled once in a car - since 1985.
Maybe you ride faster on a bike than you do in your car.

Also, random events tend towards a sort of "clumping". (poisson distribution)
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:58 PM   #7
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California cops seem to expect anyone riding anything other then a harley to be a trouble maker.

The only time I've ever been pulled over was on my motorcycle. It was about 11pm as I'm going up a rather steep hill on the main street through town on my dinky 200. I can only go 35 in a 40 zone, well this car gets closer and closer, I keep frantically looking back till there about 3 feet off my tire. I see a street coming up, flick on my blinker and duck in real quick. A second later blue lights pop on, it was a cop that almost ran me over, great. I pull over, paper work is handed over and after a detailed going over, he made me move my gloves so he could look at my speedometer, he gives me a ticket for the only thing he can, the amber cover on my turn signal is partially missing. I somehow refrained from giving him a peice of my mind about riding me so close and fishing.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:06 PM   #8
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I think you're overreacting to things. Where I live, when I had my stock pipes on the KTM, I was doing about 80 down a city street, speed limit 35, before I noticed him backed into a driveway looking down, and he never even looked up, even as I barked the front tire with the brake.

But really, since I don't do 150 mph every day to work any more, or 4 gear wheelies down every block, they don't even look at me. It could be the 20,000 (estimated) illegal aliens driving in this city of 100,000 though. They've got other shit to worry about than me.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:56 AM   #9
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I think you're overreacting to things. Where I live, when I had my stock pipes on the KTM, I was doing about 80 down a city street, speed limit 35, before I noticed him backed into a driveway looking down, and he never even looked up, even as I barked the front tire with the brake.

But really, since I don't do 150 mph every day to work any more, or 4 gear wheelies down every block, they don't even look at me. It could be the 20,000 (estimated) illegal aliens driving in this city of 100,000 though. They've got other shit to worry about than me.
Doing 80 on a city street.............were you wearing flip-flops and a tank top as well?
I see the college kids doing that stuff all the time. Somehow most survive.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:39 AM   #10
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I almost never see bikes pulled over around Central California. I've been told by my CHP friend they don't like to pull bikes over because of the high rates of riders trying to evade police, which leads to dead riders over minor traffic violations. I kind of think that's bull, because that will lead to a situation where people with fast vehicles think they're above the law. (only I should be above the law, the rest of you FF's need to comply ).

I have only been been pulled over once on the bike. I came out of a gas station driveway about 20 feet from a stop sign, but I was focused on the highway on ramp 100 feet away and blew through it. The CHP was waiting at that intersection to get on the highway, so he had me pulled over as soon as we reached the top. He just wanted to make sure I was alert, because it was about 115 degrees F that day and traffic was heavy. He let me go with no ticket.

I have met CHP that were all business, but never a genuine dickhead. Same with Sheriffs. City PD vary a bit more, and can over react sometimes. It is not uncommon in my little foothill town for people to get arrested for 'drunk in public' standing outside a bar waiting for a taxi. I have no idea how people get away with leaving bars in a vehicle. That just seems like you're asking for it. I drink at home, walk to bars, or take turns as designated driver with my wife. I never get drunk enough to stumble in a public place, because it makes you a target for opportunistic bad guys. The only exception would be Adv events in campgrounds where crawling back to the tent is considered a good end to the evening.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:29 PM   #11
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:47 PM   #12
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I ride pretty much everyday here in southern Ca and haven't been stopped since 2006.
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I ride pretty much everyday here in southern Ca and haven't been stopped since 2006.
You do realize that you just jinxed yourself, Bud...

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