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Old 02-01-2013, 11:37 AM   #1
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Question Overpants Recommendation

My requirements:
  1. Waterproof or very water resistant
  2. Windproof
  3. Wear over jeans/dockers
  4. Possible to wear alone or over thermal underwear
  5. Not sure about armor, but if it is included, it has to be adjustable and removeable

I ride a cruiser and live in Dallas, so it doesn't get very cold here, but it isn't unusual for winter temperatures to hover in the 30-40 range.

Yesterday, I tried on Olympia AirGlide 3 pants. They aren't for me. First, even with the liner removed, they seemed awfully heavy. Secondly, and more importantly, to work as an overpant you have to remove the liner, and without the liner they aren't waterproof or windproof. I looked at the Olympia Ranger too. Again, they seemed awfully heavy and as the sales clerk said, "You'll roast in those things around here."

I'd be content with an overpant that doesn't have a thermal liner, but is wind and water resistant, provides abrasion protection, and perhaps has armor. Suggestions? One more thought - what about kevlar jeans with a gore-tex rain paint (something like Frogg Toggs), and just forget the armor?
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:53 AM   #2
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Aerostich Dariens or AD1. They are unlined and water/windproof. They also have a full length zipper meaning you can take them on and off very quickly and stow them.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:57 AM   #3
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Overpants

I love my AD! pants from Aerostich. They are light weight, flexible, removeable pads, windproof, waterproff. They make/sell very good riding gear. Check out the link below. There are other models as well. They can be a bit pricey, but hey - its your skin. Mine is worth it.
http://www.aerostich.com/ad1-light-pants.html

Other versions with a bit more padding and protection - on sale
http://www.aerostich.com/catalogsear...rder=relevance
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:25 PM   #4
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Aerostich Dariens or AD1. They are unlined and water/windproof. They also have a full length zipper meaning you can take them on and off very quickly and stow them.
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I love my AD! pants from Aerostich. They are light weight, flexible, removeable pads, windproof, waterproff. They make/sell very good riding gear. Check out the link below. There are other models as well. They can be a bit pricey, but hey - its your skin. Mine is worth it.
http://www.aerostich.com/ad1-light-pants.html

Other versions with a bit more padding and protection - on sale
http://www.aerostich.com/catalogsear...rder=relevance
So with your AD1s, did you order up one size (I.e. if size 36, order 38s)? Or are they designed oversized? Thanks.
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:08 PM   #5
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I love my AD! pants from Aerostich. They are light weight, flexible, removeable pads, windproof, waterproff. They make/sell very good riding gear. Check out the link below. There are other models as well. They can be a bit pricey, but hey - its your skin. Mine is worth it.
http://www.aerostich.com/ad1-light-pants.html

Other versions with a bit more padding and protection - on sale
http://www.aerostich.com/catalogsear...rder=relevance

I agree that the AD1 pants are everything you need. I wear them as overpants, but usually just with long or regular underwear. Never got wet in them. I bought the optional hip pads as well. They work for me.
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:14 PM   #6
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My requirements:
  1. Waterproof or very water resistant
  2. Windproof
  3. Wear over jeans/dockers
  4. Possible to wear alone or over thermal underwear
  5. Not sure about armor, but if it is included, it has to be adjustable and removeable

I ride a cruiser and live in Dallas, so it doesn't get very cold here, but it isn't unusual for winter temperatures to hover in the 30-40 range.

Yesterday, I tried on Olympia AirGlide 3 pants. They aren't for me. First, even with the liner removed, they seemed awfully heavy. Secondly, and more importantly, to work as an overpant you have to remove the liner, and without the liner they aren't waterproof or windproof. I looked at the Olympia Ranger too. Again, they seemed awfully heavy and as the sales clerk said, "You'll roast in those things around here."

I'd be content with an overpant that doesn't have a thermal liner, but is wind and water resistant, provides abrasion protection, and perhaps has armor. Suggestions? One more thought - what about kevlar jeans with a gore-tex rain paint (something like Frogg Toggs), and just forget the armor?
Klim Traverse pants work for me.

Waterproof - check.

Windproof - check.

I wear mine over khakis every day riding to work.

The interior is easily soft enough to wear directly over thermals. I could probably wear mine directly over shorts and not feel uncomfortable.

They don't come with armor, but there are knee pockets for armor if you want to add them, and it seems fairly adjuster.

I do not think there are hip pockets for armor, however. If there are, I certainly can't find them.
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:51 PM   #7
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Klim Traverse pants work for me.

Waterproof - check.

Windproof - check.

I wear mine over khakis every day riding to work.

The interior is easily soft enough to wear directly over thermals. I could probably wear mine directly over shorts and not feel uncomfortable.

They don't come with armor, but there are knee pockets for armor if you want to add them, and it seems fairly adjuster.

I do not think there are hip pockets for armor, however. If there are, I certainly can't find them.
They do have hip armor pockets and they're quite visible. Maybe you have an older model?
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:20 AM   #8
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They do have hip armor pockets and they're quite visible. Maybe you have an older model?
I bought them in December, so I'm assuming they're not an older model. I will definitely have to look again. Maybe I should wear my glasses this time.

Thanks for prompting me to take a second look.
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:18 PM   #9
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FirstGear HT2 overpants.
I've had mine for years now and they never leak. I've not worn them without pants but I'm sure I could.

Water/windproof without the liner - i can wear from over 100* to below 40* although when it hits 30* I wish i would have remembered the liner.

The fit right on a cruiser and on my GSA.

Oh and they aren't expensive.
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:05 PM   #10
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FirstGear HT2 overpants.
I've had mine for years now and they never leak. I've not worn them without pants but I'm sure I could.

Water/windproof without the liner - i can wear from over 100* to below 40* although when it hits 30* I wish i would have remembered the liner.

The fit right on a cruiser and on my GSA.

Oh and they aren't expensive.
I tried them on yesterday, but they apparently didn't have my size. They felt snug when I had my jeans on and the liner out, better when I just wore the outerpant and my boxers, but there was no way I could have put them over my jeans with the liner in. Do you ever wear them like that?
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I tried them on yesterday, but they apparently didn't have my size. They felt snug when I had my jeans on and the liner out, better when I just wore the outerpant and my boxers, but there was no way I could have put them over my jeans with the liner in. Do you ever wear them like that?
Never have worn without pants and I bought the size for the pants I wear.
I wear them over jeans, khakis and sometimes suit pants.
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:06 PM   #12
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I wear a size 36 pant normally and have the size 38 in the Dariens. I do have the optional (and bulky) hip armor. I originally purchased a size 36 and with the armor, it was just too tight. My Dariens go over dress slacks and a belt for my regular commute.

I know it is a pain to send things like this back, but if you have to, don't stress it. Stich is good about making sure you get what you need. If you're not going to use the hip armor, try the 36 and return it if needed.
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:58 PM   #13
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I wear a size 36 pant normally and have the size 38 in the Dariens. I do have the optional (and bulky) hip armor. I originally purchased a size 36 and with the armor, it was just too tight. My Dariens go over dress slacks and a belt for my regular commute.

I know it is a pain to send things like this back, but if you have to, don't stress it. Stich is good about making sure you get what you need. If you're not going to use the hip armor, try the 36 and return it if needed.
Do you always wear them as an overpant, or do you ever wear them over shorts or your underwear?
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I wear a size 36 pant normally and have the size 38 in the Dariens. I do have the optional (and bulky) hip armor. I originally purchased a size 36 and with the armor, it was just too tight. My Dariens go over dress slacks and a belt for my regular commute.

I know it is a pain to send things like this back, but if you have to, don't stress it. Stich is good about making sure you get what you need. If you're not going to use the hip armor, try the 36 and return it if needed.
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Do you always wear them as an overpant, or do you ever wear them over shorts or your underwear?
And do you break left or right?
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:48 AM   #15
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Do you always wear them as an overpant, or do you ever wear them over shorts or your underwear?
I haven't worn them with shorts, but I have worn them with some very thin Columbia sport pants. They were fine with those. They do have an interesting feature that I'm not sure a lot of others have. There are two different snaps on the sides so you and tighten or loosen them as needed based on what you have underneath. That, in combination with the belt should leave you plenty of room to adjust to different layers.
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