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Old 02-11-2013, 01:18 AM   #1
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ER-6 n or f for long distance touring?

Surfing online, the reviews of Kawasaki's ER-6 n or f are all exceptionally positive and quite favorable. The ER is somewhat similar to the Ninja, with an upright seating position. I just had a F650GS - great technology but torture chambre for ass, back and neck... Anyone knows anything about the ER-6 and long distance touring? Oh, no, not the Versy. The ER-6.
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:32 AM   #2
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ER-6 n or f for long distance touring?

Anyone with any experience of long distance touring with an ER-6 n or f? Not the Versy nor the Ninja: the ER-6 by Kawa. I saw one in Thailand with all farkles (hard aluminium cases, headlight protector, bash guard, etc etc...). Very impressive!!!
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Old 02-11-2013, 05:35 AM   #3
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The ER-6N is just the Ninja without its clothes. The ER-6F is the Ninja 650R in this part of the world, so your post is a little confusing.

Plenty of long distance farkles WRT luggage, better tires, tip-over protection, taller screens, etc.

I had a pleasant 25k miles on my '06, lots of 700 mile days, one over 900. That was with the Kawasaki OEM +1" seat, more comfy than stock.

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Old 02-11-2013, 11:22 AM   #4
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If you like the low bar/rearset peg sportbike riding position it should be fine. I would rather have the Versys.
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:20 PM   #5
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If you like the low bar/rearset peg sportbike riding position it should be fine. I would rather have the Versys.
Without getting into another of your famous geriatric ergonomic diatribes, there is really not anything rearset about the pegs, nor low about the bars. Given that the OP has already dismissed the Versys, I trust he knows already what he finds comfortable. If you have nothing constructive to add, please move along.

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Old 02-11-2013, 09:18 PM   #6
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Without getting into another of your famous geriatric ergonomic diatribes, there is really not anything rearset about the pegs, nor low about the bars. Given that the OP has already dismissed the Versys, I trust he knows already what he finds comfortable. If you have nothing constructive to add, please move along.

Yes, I will move along. But in the picture you posted, the pegs are obviously rearset, they are behind the riders knees. Pegs that are straight down from the riders knees are standard, pegs that are out in front of the riders knees are forward. I also don't see any bend in the riders elbows. It's nowhere near as bad as some bikes, but I would still go for the Versys. You'll notice I stated that if the OP liked the riding position of the ER-6N, it is a good bike, as is the Ninja. But they are not for everybody.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:26 AM   #7
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But they are not for everybody.
Jerry, you stated in another thread that you drive a 72 Ford Pinto and your favorite bike is a Vulcan 750. You, more than anyone posting here, should not be telling anyone else what is "not for everybody"
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:40 AM   #8
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Yes, I will move along. But in the picture you posted, the pegs are obviously rearset, they are behind the riders knees. Pegs that are straight down from the riders knees are standard, pegs that are out in front of the riders knees are forward. I also don't see any bend in the riders elbows. It's nowhere near as bad as some bikes, but I would still go for the Versys. You'll notice I stated that if the OP liked the riding position of the ER-6N, it is a good bike, as is the Ninja. But they are not for everybody.

The standard of 1955 isn't the standard of today. That bike is the most standard, neutral machine I think I've ever seen. It should define the word.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:53 AM   #9
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Yes, I will move along. But in the picture you posted, the pegs are obviously rearset, they are behind the riders knees. Pegs that are straight down from the riders knees are standard, pegs that are out in front of the riders knees are forward. I also don't see any bend in the riders elbows. It's nowhere near as bad as some bikes, but I would still go for the Versys. You'll notice I stated that if the OP liked the riding position of the ER-6N, it is a good bike, as is the Ninja. But they are not for everybody.
Just FYI, the seat to peg relationship on the Versys is identical to the ER-6n/Ninja 650, and the bar to seat postion is almost identical. I ride a Versys, and would be just as comfy on the Ninja. The OP's issue with the Versys is either looks or seat height. Neither has a thing to do with whether or not the bike has "rearsets".
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:20 AM   #10
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If you like the low bar/rearset peg sportbike riding position it should be fine. I would rather have the Versys.
The ER6n/F (or 650R) are nothing like that.

Forward lean of only 14 per bike ergo site, which is virtually nothing.
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While not as relaxed as the Versys, the er-6n/f/650r is more relaxed than the ex500 was by a fair bit - (13 degree lean angle vs 22 degree on the ex500 for a 5'10" person).

Similar lean angle as the BMW f800R, and that was fine, especially for a bike with some wind.
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Old 02-11-2013, 09:50 AM   #12
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Surfing online, the reviews of Kawasaki's ER-6 n or f are all exceptionally positive and quite favorable. The ER is somewhat similar to the Ninja, with an upright seating position. I just had a F650GS - great technology but torture chambre for ass, back and neck... Anyone knows anything about the ER-6 and long distance touring? Oh, no, not the Versy. The ER-6.
The two are very similar, ER6 and Versys, with the latter getting the nod as a more capable and versatile bike. I put about 8K on my versys, it's a fun little bike, but has some quirks and wear on you. Namely harsh suspension and buzzy motor, but otherwise a pretty much bulletproof bike. Sold it for a Triumph Tiger 800XC. Absolutely lightyears better.

There are some pretty spectacular long distance trips that have been reported on the versys owners forum. I suggest you look there: http://kawasakiversys.com/

The ER6 has shorter suspension and the ninja motor tune. The Versys has longer travel and tuned for more lowend torque. The '6 is really an urban conventional streetbike. There are better choices for something long distance. The sister bike (versys) would be a start, but certainly there are others. At least the Versys would give you the road capability your F650 lacks. They are pretty limited for any off-pavement going though with the 17" front.

This is how I had my Versys setup for long distance:

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Old 02-11-2013, 03:25 PM   #13
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:32 PM   #14
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I bought that lid and jacket because they matched my orangey-red GS500E that was my first bike.

Ever since I saw that picture, I have only bought grey gear and white helmets.
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:41 PM   #15
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Wearing a bunch of space alien clothes too, crazy stunter nut-jobs and their rocket bikes!

I get black stuff all the time, matches everything too.
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