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Old 02-23-2013, 09:34 PM   #1
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Ugggh, I give up - help!!!

I've been lurking around here for many hours each day, trying to find myself just the right bike to buy. I have my loan in my sweaty hand and I'm ready to buy.... something.

A few details about me:

1. I'm a 140lb, 32 year old female - I lift heavy weights so bike weight is of less concern. I'm 5'8" with a 33" inseam.

2. I live in the Pacific NW and have very little riding experience and very rusty mechanical skills. I love the power of motorcycles so I'm not afraid of something that suddenly goes fast.

3. I intend to ride around town and to/from work (20 highway miles each way). I also intend to ride it approximately 100 highway-speed miles to the mountains on the weekends, where (my main goal) is to learn how to ride off-road. If I had to assign a ratio, it would be 40 on/60 off.

4. Comfort on the highway is less important than having a decent platform on which to learn how to ride off-road. And off-road meaning fun singletrack with mud, creeks, obstacles. I'm not really into crazy jumps and boulder-hopping.

So there it is. The perfect dual-sport, which I know is impossible. I've been two seconds shy of laying down money on the following bikes:

- BMW G650GS (not as good off-road)
- Kawi KLR650 (not as good off-road, too top-heavy)
- Suz DRZ400 (I forget why I knocked this one off my list)
- KTM 450EXC (KTM dealer said too much bike for my experience level)
- Husky TE310 (definitely not an on-road bike to get to the mountains)

I'd appreciate any thoughts/insight/wisdom/advice/jokes, any info anyone might have to share in the torture of finding just the right bike.

Thanks so much
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:50 PM   #2
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Good luck with this one. I do not think you will find the bike you want. Perhaps the DRZ.

Learning to ride off road in the conditions you want to try begs for a small bike. Like a crf230f or similar. Learning to ride in the dirt on any of those bikes you mentioned is going to be hard work.

I think the drz would give you a taste of both worlds but would work well for neither. I had one and put 12K miles on it. It was a great bike. And I learned to ride the dirt on it. It got more dirt worthy with new tires and lower gearing. 100 miles on the freeway would be a killer with those changes.

I think you will be headed for 2 bikes like the rest of us.

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Old 02-23-2013, 09:52 PM   #3
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welcome to the group I also meant to say.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:56 PM   #4
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hello,
Just to throw it out there, WR250R??

lite-ish weight. Good-ish suspension.
It will go 90-ish.
25K valve intervals.

Definitely stay away from the 450s for now.

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Old 02-23-2013, 10:07 PM   #5
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Yeah, what they said. As far as a first bike goes you are going to want something smaller/lighter/less powerful. I have known many many people (men and women) get their first motorbike (usually in the 600cc range) dump it at a stop sign, wash out the front wheel, or end up very intimidated by the power and acceleration. Not to say that you would fit in the category but just some friendly insight.

I would also suggest a 250cc to start out with-all the big manufacturers make a good one and even if you get bored with it in six months it will empower you with confidence that will make it all worthwhile.

I have had an XL 650, the 650GS, an 1100GS, etc. and now I ride a KLX250SF and love it. I'm 175lbs. and 6'2" and find it to have adequate power and you can't beat the quick maneuverability.

Good luck with your choice and welcome to the two-wheeled-world!
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:03 PM   #6
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If your going to choose one off this list:

- BMW G650GS (not as good off-road)
- Kawi KLR650 (not as good off-road, too top-heavy)
- Suz DRZ400 (I forget why I knocked this one off my list)
- KTM 450EXC (KTM dealer said too much bike for my experience level)
- Husky TE310 (definitely not an on-road bike to get to the mountains)

I would say go for the DR 400... With you been fairly light the DR would have no problem on your highway haul while at the same time giving you a good platform to build up your dirt skills... The DR is fairly tall which can be difficult to deal with... Some people recommend to lower the bike with links or suspension cuts, but I am more of a firm believer in getting used to the seat height if at all possible... With practice the height of the bike will become a non issue as you learn to ride with balance and to stop where you can get a foot down... You'll appreciate the long travel suspension left as is {not shortened} when you get into the off road side of things ...
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:28 PM   #7
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I'd say a DRZ 400 or a WR 250 "R" (not the "F") would be perfect for someone learning because a bigger heavy bike can be hard work offroad there for turn you off riding. Don't forget to post up a photo when you get it
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Old 02-23-2013, 11:02 PM   #8
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The new ktm's have 3 maps. Soft ,standard ,aggressive
The soft setting would be less then a drz only just
With a better suspension package and being a lighter bike I would take one for a test ride see how you like it , but not the best for HWY miles thou

You need to ride all the bikes on your list to see what suits you .
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Old 02-23-2013, 11:35 PM   #9
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I gotta agree... the 250s have a lot going for them, especially the new ones, especially for a 60% off road profile. I have an older Sherpa & it goes 70 on the hiway with me (230#). I rode to Dawson a few years ago with a friend that had a new WR & he pretty much kept up with my highly modded KLR (he was packed very light & I was heavy but still...). we did 75 most of the way (1000 miles). the only time he couldn't keep up was when he had to run regular gas. when we took off road excursions it was no contest.

there was a 250 shoot out in one of the magazines last month. the Yamaha came out 1st & Kawi a close second, followed by Honda.

the DRZ is nice but needs another gear. I don't think there is much advantage over the 250s. if any
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Old 02-23-2013, 11:45 PM   #10
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lets not forget the DR650 its a great option as well
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Old 02-24-2013, 12:35 AM   #11
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WR250 or CRF250

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Old 02-24-2013, 04:12 AM   #12
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I've been lurking around here for many hours each day, trying to find myself just the right bike to buy. I have my loan in my sweaty hand and I'm ready to buy.... something.

A few details about me:

1. I'm a 140lb, 32 year old female - I lift heavy weights so bike weight is of less concern. I'm 5'8" with a 33" inseam.

2. I live in the Pacific NW and have very little riding experience and very rusty mechanical skills. I love the power of motorcycles so I'm not afraid of something that suddenly goes fast.

3. I intend to ride around town and to/from work (20 highway miles each way). I also intend to ride it approximately 100 highway-speed miles to the mountains on the weekends, where (my main goal) is to learn how to ride off-road. If I had to assign a ratio, it would be 40 on/60 off.

4. Comfort on the highway is less important than having a decent platform on which to learn how to ride off-road. And off-road meaning fun singletrack with mud, creeks, obstacles. I'm not really into crazy jumps and boulder-hopping.

So there it is. The perfect dual-sport, which I know is impossible. I've been two seconds shy of laying down money on the following bikes:

- BMW G650GS (not as good off-road)
- Kawi KLR650 (not as good off-road, too top-heavy)
- Suz DRZ400 (I forget why I knocked this one off my list)
- KTM 450EXC (KTM dealer said too much bike for my experience level)
- Husky TE310 (definitely not an on-road bike to get to the mountains)

I'd appreciate any thoughts/insight/wisdom/advice/jokes, any info anyone might have to share in the torture of finding just the right bike.

Thanks so much

plate an xr250, xr400, or just buy a drz. the drz is the biggest pig of the bunch.


when you buy and fall in love with whichever, post up some pics. :)
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:21 AM   #13
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Congrats on learning. but get some training/good gear. Costly at first but the amount of damage it will prevent to woman and machine will be a savings.
It seems like you are doing the analysis well though.
Good luck.
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Old 03-08-2013, 04:19 PM   #14
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Akhenaten - In case you have not figured it out yet - your original stipulation of capability requiring 200 miles of highway speed is a huge factor. Currently, there is *no good dirt bike* that is capable of fulfilling that requirement. Any of the big 650's make horrible dirt bikes, IMO. A mighty KTM 500 *might* do it, but it will not like it, nor will it last very long pulling that kind of duty, unless you gear it very high, pretty much destroying its dirt capability.
Around here, highway duty means holding a sustained speed of 75-85 mph indicated. A small WR250R *might* do it, but you will feel really bad for its motor.
Again, IMO, you would do better to buy a good dirt bike, and haul it to your destination with a small single rail trailer.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:07 PM   #15
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Akhenaten - In case you have not figured it out yet - your original stipulation of capability requiring 200 miles of highway speed is a huge factor. Currently, there is *no good dirt bike* that is capable of fulfilling that requirement. Any of the big 650's make horrible dirt bikes, IMO. A mighty KTM 500 *might* do it, but it will not like it, nor will it last very long pulling that kind of duty, unless you gear it very high, pretty much destroying its dirt capability.
Around here, highway duty means holding a sustained speed of 75-85 mph indicated. A small WR250R *might* do it, but you will feel really bad for its motor.
Again, IMO, you would do better to buy a good dirt bike, and haul it to your destination with a small single rail trailer.
Not all of us plan on riding East Coast Woods conditions. The OP is a NOVICE off road rider. My guess is he'll stick mostly to two track and Fire Roads for the first year or so. Out West things are a lot more wide open, you can go hundreds of miles on dirt roads. Even my DR650 does all that easily. The WR is a great choice ... and perfect for a Novice rider to learn off road riding ... and still have fun!

I agree ... at 85 mph a WR250R will be spinning up. But once again ... is the OP really going to ride that way around Vancouver, WA? I doubt it. You're ridden around there, right?

The definition of "dirt bike" obviously varies among riders. My DR650 has got me round Baja on several major rides ... and I rode there on the interstate ... 700 miles each way. NO truck involved thanks. In Baja I did another 2000 miles ... about 500 of that off road following parts of the Baja 1000 course.

So Horses for Courses ...
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