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Old 02-25-2013, 07:45 PM   #1
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Bluhduh EDIT! 90mm Bolts Found!

EDIT: 90mm bolts are available again! The thread is here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=875146.


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I picked up a Kaoko from another inmate here for my '05 R1200GS. As seen in many posts, I need the 90mm retaining bolt (part # 32717698103). However, I called Bob's BMW, only to learn that the bolt is discontinued!

Even McMaster-Carr doesn't carry a bolt that will fit. Does anyone have any suggestions? Tomorrow, I'm calling Bike Bandit and A&S Cycles, as they both listed the part online, but no promises that it is in stock.

Perhaps it'll have to go back on the FM...
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:08 PM   #2
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I have installed a few with the short bolt. Have you tried it?

Also, by all means, do not stop with Bob's (who is by far NOT the only authority on all things BMW). Call Mortons and Max BMW and see what they say.

Also, if still no luck, try fastenal. http://www.fastenal.com/web/home.ex

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Old 02-25-2013, 08:29 PM   #3
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80mm too short

Thanks for the tips, Jim! I definitely tried the 80mm bolt, making sure the pieces were lined up, no strippage, no extra space, etc.

It turns out the 80mm bolt sank 10mm into the threads inside the handlebar (the precious ten mils that I lost with the Kaoko).

I found a few close options at Fastenal, but not quite the match. Still checking all their nooks & crannies.

Mortons and Max were closed today. They're definitely on my list for tomorrow!
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:31 PM   #4
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Same here. Instructions said to use a different length bolt. I ordered one but that was months ago. I asked about it a couple of times since, the last time probably 6 months ago, but it was still back ordered. I used the bolt that came with it; seemed to have more than an adequate amount of thread. Actually I had totally forgot about it until reading this thread.
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:59 PM   #5
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Sanity check

Okay, I figured that I must be missing something here, so I revisited the situation. I took it all apart to see what could be affecting the bolt.

The bolt by itself has plenty of length through the Kaoko. I reinstalled it, without the washer for the handguard, and Voila! It seats:


As you can see, the washer has significant depth to it:


Normally, I'd see about going without it (even though it's not aesthetically pleasing or symmetrical). However, the bolt hole in the handguard is just a fraction smaller than the bolt head. So the washer is actually important:


Someone, somewhere has a 90mm bolt, I'm sure. More to follow tomorrow.
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:39 PM   #6
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A few months ago I spent a considerable amount of time to find a 90mm bolt off the shelf.
I struck out at Canadian dealers as well as my industrial fastener suppliers.
The only alternative was have a machine shop make one up. The owner was not willing to spend the money.
If you find a source let us know.
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:04 PM   #7
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Can you order one from Kaoko? I see this on their web site.

please check your OEM Bar End Weight central retaining bolt prior to ordering. If 80mm long part CCF400-08 is required. If 90mm long part CCF400 is required).

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Old 02-26-2013, 03:57 AM   #8
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M12x90MM??

I think this is a stock M12x90MM countersunk bolt. Anybody know for sure?

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Old 02-26-2013, 05:36 AM   #9
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Anybody looked for a 100mm length and then cut to suit?
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Old 02-28-2013, 02:14 PM   #10
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Unfortunately, Dexter has informed us that the bolts are on back order.

One Kaoko coming to the Flea Market. I'll see about picking up the Twisted Throttle model for the 80mm bolt.
Yeah, bummer. Those are imported and I guess you know how difficult is to get something imported here in Arg. This time.

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Old 02-28-2013, 08:07 PM   #11
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All, is this only a pre 2006 issue? Would I have this issue on my 2012 GSA?
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All, is this only a pre 2006 issue? Would I have this issue on my 2012 GSA?
Probably not.

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Old 03-01-2013, 11:25 AM   #13
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All, is this only a pre 2006 issue? Would I have this issue on my 2012 GSA?
My 2011 GSA uses the 90mm. If you take off the alu spacer that holds the handgard, then 80mm is enough but since the Kaoko is longer than the OEM bar end weight, you need a longer bolt.

Thanks, Kaoko and re-sellers, for offering this kit for the 2011 GSA and not mentioning the need for the longer bolt beforehand.
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:19 PM   #14
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We may have a winner

Gentlemen (and I use that term loosely),

I'm in comms with a bolt shop in the UK who is looking into this. If they can do it, I'll turn the bolts around (at cost) here in the flea market.

Simply put, stand by...
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:28 PM   #15
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Stand by is over! Got my first shipment of bolts in, and we're good to go! Kaoko is installed and works fine. Look for a Flea Market thread soon. PM if interested, and I'll forward you the link when it's created.

WooHoo!
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