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Old 04-11-2013, 12:30 PM   #1
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Marin County / NorCal Dual sport riders... UNITE!

Hey all,

I wanted to start this thread to see we can have a discussion group for riders in the Marin, NorCal area, that want to meet for day rides, as well as multi day rides. I'm new to Adv riding,(my other pony is an 08' ZX6R), and want to meet others from all experience levels for rides.

There's some roads I've been wanting to check out, and thought I'd see if anyone was game to ride them together.

1. Low Gap Road
2. Orr Springs Road
3. Sherwood Road
4. Usal Road
5. Fish Rock Road
6. Hwy 89 through Lassen

I want to try and plan some rides soon, as summer's around the corner!

Anyone that's in the area, or just wants to cruise along, great! The more the merrier.

I'm riding a Triumph Tiger 800 XC ('11) Just got my AltRider crashguards, so should be good for the dirt!
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Old 04-11-2013, 01:39 PM   #2
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You might want to check out the Mendo Rally.
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Old 04-11-2013, 02:24 PM   #3
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You might want to check out the Mendo Rally.
This looks bad ass... I'm new to riding a motorcycle in the dirt, but been mountainbiking and DH mtb for a while now...so comfortable in that sense.

Is this a hardcore/advanced ride? Looks doable, but don't want to bite off more than I can chew...

So, $55 all up for camping and food? Not too shabby...
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:31 PM   #4
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Mario,

It can as easy or as hard as you want. All types of terrain to ride there.
Open fire roads to tight single track.

Many of your mtn bike skills will transfer, looking ahead on the trail, picking lines,
weight transfer etc. However, maneuvering a 400-550lb motorcyle and a 20-40lb
mtn bike is a little different.

If you break down my moniker, Moots Uno, I think you'll believe I speaking from
experience.

As for food at the rally, it includes dinners and snacking food which you could probably
make into breakfast or lunch. It wouldn't be the healthiest meal though.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:35 PM   #5
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Hey all,

I wanted to start this thread to see we can have a discussion group for riders in the Marin, NorCal area, that want to meet for day rides, as well as multi day rides. I'm new to Adv riding,(my other pony is an 08' ZX6R), and want to meet others from all experience levels for rides.

There's some roads I've been wanting to check out, and thought I'd see if anyone was game to ride them together.

1. Low Gap Road
2. Orr Springs Road
3. Sherwood Road
4. Usal Road
5. Fish Rock Road
6. Hwy 89 through Lassen

I want to try and plan some rides soon, as summer's around the corner!

Anyone that's in the area, or just wants to cruise along, great! The more the merrier.

I'm riding a Triumph Tiger 800 XC ('11) Just got my AltRider crashguards, so should be good for the dirt!
You'd also like FH7 from Covelo east, it's a nice road. Be aware that Low gap, Sherwood, and Usal roads can all be very muddy in the early season, they can be tricky on a big bike. But fun, I love all of the roads you mentioned. Fish Rock is a really good place to start, then try Low Gap. Also, Old Toll road, parallel to Hopland grade, is great, and you can make a loop out of that and riding the road through Cow mt. Lots of great roads out there, I could go on and on, but I don't have as much time to ride these days with a 6 month old at home. . .
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:34 PM   #6
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The film, Need for Speed, scheduled for release March 14, 2014 and starrring Breaking Bad's Aaron Paul, wrapped filming on the following Mendocino County roads today:

It may be fun for you to ride them and see the movie later.



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Old 04-17-2013, 04:51 PM   #7
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Hey KL. Thanks for the info... wasn;t free to do that long of a ride...but those roads sure do look sweet! Planning on doing something in the next few weeks...on a weekend. Maybe a day trip with 50/50 dirt / road.

Would you or anyone else be interested? Maybe up to Ukiah, Low Gap out to 1, and then 1 home?

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The film, Need for Speed, scheduled for release March 14, 2014 and starrring Breaking Bad's Aaron Paul, wrapped filming on the following Mendocino County roads today:

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Hey all,

I wanted to start this thread to see we can have a discussion group for riders in the Marin, NorCal area, that want to meet for day rides, as well as multi day rides. I'm new to Adv riding,(my other pony is an 08' ZX6R), and want to meet others from all experience levels for rides.

There's some roads I've been wanting to check out, and thought I'd see if anyone was game to ride them together.

1. Low Gap Road
2. Orr Springs Road
3. Sherwood Road
4. Usal Road
5. Fish Rock Road
6. Hwy 89 through Lassen

I want to try and plan some rides soon, as summer's around the corner!

Anyone that's in the area, or just wants to cruise along, great! The more the merrier.

I'm riding a Triumph Tiger 800 XC ('11) Just got my AltRider crashguards, so should be good for the dirt!
I believe the roads you've listed are not in Marin County. Not many legal dirt roads in Marin that I know of but plenty of fun paved roads. Getting up to the roads you list would be a LONG day ride if you include riding some of them the full length. Best as a two day ride if starting from San Fran.

To get to know some local riders I'd start going on the Sunday Morning Ride out of Mill Valley. 7:30 am depart every Sunday for the last 40 plus years.

All pavement, all kinds of bikes, plenty of ADV and dual sport bikes in the mix. Fast pace ... It's an impromptu race ... so my advice is to hang back until you figure out how it works. This group also do all kinds of longer, multi day rides involving dirt roads you list above.

Spring will find nasty mud on Sherwood, Usal and others. Pass on your Tiger you won't make it.

The Mendo Rally looks like a big deal with hundreds of people, motorhomes/trailers. I ride motorcycles, not a Motorhome guy, so not so much interest for me. I prefer to R I D E my bike to Mendo Forest and Camp or Motel it while in the area. YMMV. No offense to the Mendo rally guys but rides with hundreds of NOOB riders is not my idea of fun. Cluster f*#@K

As an introduction I'd ride up to the Mendo Forest and explore the big M roads on your own. (M1, M3 and M10) All well groomed and marked. Stop in at the Ranger Station in Upper Lake and get a FREE map. From there you can do more and try some two track roads. Ride the M roads over to Fouts Springs, Stoneyford or up to Covelo and back. Go easy on the big Tiger. Have fun!
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:56 PM   #9
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I believe the roads you've listed are not in Marin County. Not many legal dirt roads in Marin that I know of but plenty of fun paved roads. Getting up to the roads you list would be a LONG day ride if you include riding some of them the full length. Best as a two day ride if starting from San Fran.

To get to know some local riders I'd start going on the Sunday Morning Ride out of Mill Valley. 7:30 am depart every Sunday for the last 40 plus years.

All pavement, all kinds of bikes, plenty of ADV and dual sport bikes in the mix. Fast pace ... It's an impromptu race ... so my advice is to hang back until you figure out how it works. This group also do all kinds of longer, multi day rides involving dirt roads you list above.

Spring will find nasty mud on Sherwood, Usal and others. Pass on your Tiger you won't make it.

The Mendo Rally looks like a big deal with hundreds of people, motorhomes/trailers. I ride motorcycles, not a Motorhome guy, so not so much interest for me. I prefer to R I D E my bike to Mendo Forest and Camp or Motel it while in the area. YMMV. No offense to the Mendo rally guys but rides with hundreds of NOOB riders is not my idea of fun. Cluster f*#@K

As an introduction I'd ride up to the Mendo Forest and explore the big M roads on your own. (M1, M3 and M10) All well groomed and marked. Stop in at the Ranger Station in Upper Lake and get a FREE map. From there you can do more and try some two track roads. Ride the M roads over to Fouts Springs, Stoneyford or up to Covelo and back. Go easy on the big Tiger. Have fun!
Hey Grifter,

Thanks for the 411. Very helpful.

It is quite a trek up north to those Roads...I live in Marin, and can make it up that way if I leave early enough. Im usually on the road by 6:30am for long day rides.

Thought about doing the "Doc Wong" ride before...but just way too many people... thought about posting here to see if I could find others that were interested in the same routes. Might check it out though...

Mendo Rally - Not this year...just too much going on.

Love the idea of the roads in Meno Forest. I'll have to check those out soon... Planning on any rides in the next few weeks? Would love to join and learn a little...

Thanks again, and let me know if you're ever out in this area... always looking for riding buddies.
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:28 PM   #10
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Hey Grifter,

Thanks for the 411. Very helpful.

It is quite a trek up north to those Roads...I live in Marin, and can make it up that way if I leave early enough. Im usually on the road by 6:30am for long day rides.

Thought about doing the "Doc Wong" ride before...but just way too many people... thought about posting here to see if I could find others that were interested in the same routes. Might check it out though...

Mendo Rally - Not this year...just too much going on.

Love the idea of the roads in Meno Forest. I'll have to check those out soon... Planning on any rides in the next few weeks? Would love to join and learn a little...

Thanks again, and let me know if you're ever out in this area... always looking for riding buddies.
Doc Wong is a very good teacher ... been at it for years. I did not know his groups were so large now. If groups of 10 riders or under ... I would consider it. Lots to learn. But he's a South Bay guy ... nothing like the wackiness you find among our Sunday Morning Riders.

I've got two rides coming up ... but both are invitationals. Like I said, start riding the SMR every week. In a year you'll know everyone and learn a lot, lots of private rides.

Exploring Mendocino Nat. Forest is a hoot. Lots to see and connect to.
The single track is a bit much for your Tiger but most of the two track you could do, and of course the big M roads ... like big dirt freeways. Very relaxing and nearly impossible to get lost.
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Thnx Grifter. Appreciate your help..

sorry to sound like such a noob...but SMR?

May check out one the Doc Wong rides, but the M roads will def be checking out. And grabbing that map is a must.

I'm running these tires: http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...Rear-Tire.aspx

Will those work for those roads? And what kind of psi would you recommend?

Thnx again..
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Thnx Grifter. Appreciate your help..

sorry to sound like such a noob...but SMR?

May check out one the Doc Wong rides, but the M roads will def be checking out. And grabbing that map is a must.

I'm running these tires: http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...Rear-Tire.aspx

Will those work for those roads? And what kind of psi would you recommend?

Thnx again..
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Those are good street tires. Ideally, a more 50/50 tire might be best if you want good grip on dirt/gravel. Especially up front.
Low pressures off road: 18 PSI front, 20 PSI rear.
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The Mendo Rally looks like a big deal with hundreds of people, motorhomes/trailers. I ride motorcycles, not a Motorhome guy, so not so much interest for me. I prefer to R I D E my bike to Mendo Forest and Camp or Motel it while in the area. YMMV. No offense to the Mendo rally guys but rides with hundreds of NOOB riders is not my idea of fun. Cluster f*#@K


Somebody misinformed you about the Mendo Rally. There's a group campground
with a 50 person limit and no motorhomes. Adjacent to the group site is a campground where trailers are allowed
and last year there were two who attended the rally.

Half the participants ride their bikes in.

As for riders there are some noobs, many experienced riders and even one who raced the Dakar.

Just thought I clarify any misconceptions
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:41 PM   #14
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Wicked Clear Lake Ride from Marin....

Thought I'd update this with a recent ride we did. We headed out of San Rafael around 7:30, and went to Fremont Diner on 121 near napa for a bite before we headed out. GREAT food! House smoked bacon, home made sausage...ricotta pancakes. yea...its legit. Very good...

Went with 2 other buddies... one on an SV 650, and another on a Kawasaki Concourse 14.








We headed out on hwy 29 N, and then to 128 West towards Berryessa. We took a left onto Berryessa Knoxville Road.. beautiful road, but pretty bumpy. Also, about 5 stream crossings... they look great, but they are really slick!! My buddies bikes obviously weren't really geared for this, but they did well. Minus the mishaps with the SV! My buddy went down in one of the crossings... he gave a little too much throttle, and fish tailed and went down. Slid about 30 feet on the frame slider, AND his Dianese pants...
They all held up well....Gotta love frame sliders. I lost traction on my front in one of the crossings..but I was good.

Here's a snap of the clutch lever...frankenstein looking..



Here's the broken shift lever....... had to figure something out!



Here's our jimmy rig lever... goog thing we had some wire with us! Worked great to get him home.



The Frame Slider that took most of the impact.....



A few other shots of Berryessa Knoxville Road, and the bikes.








We rode 29N to Siegler Canyon Road.... and took that South. Plan was to stay on the road, but ended up taking a detour on a dirt road. My buddies weren't too happy with that.... lol But, they powered through.
Road picked back up at Harbin Springs Road. We ended up stopping at Busters BBQ in Calistoga for a bite and beer. BBQ was meh... (think mine is better) but the beer was delicious! Great spot to stop on the way home. There was a cop parked right at the T where Busters is. BEWARE...

3 way bbq plate..



Ben is still smiling after the fall....trooper.




All in all, was a great day ride. Rode about 215 miles all up. My ass was def feeling it...but would do it again. Beautiful roads out there....

When I got back.....had to throw my protective gear on my bike after that ride!

Alt Rider Crash bars





SW Motech Skid Plate



SW Motech Center Stand






Thanks for checking the post out guys....
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Thought I'd update this with a recent ride we did. We headed out of San Rafael around 7:30, and went to Fremont Diner on 121 near napa for a bite before we headed out. GREAT food!

My buddy went down in one of the crossings... he gave a little too much throttle, and fish tailed and went down. Slid about 30 feet on the frame slider, AND his Dianese pants...
Thanks for the update Mario! Great looking Breakfast at the Diner!
You guys are certainly not the first to come to grief crossing those slick crossings. They are famous ... and I've personally seen 3 different guys go down there. One on a brand new R12GS ... which slewed sideways, went off the bridge and into the Creek. Whoops! The trick is too go light on the bars, neutral throttle, no brake, relax, don't look down.

You should post up if you plan a ride.
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