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Öhlins TTx22 front fork kit 4 2.05%
Öhlins TTx44 Mk-II rear shock 10 5.13%
Both of the above 54 27.69%
I'll stick with my WP stuff and spend the money on beer 127 65.13%
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:51 PM   #1
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Poll: Who's interested in Öhlins Suspension for the Big Bikes

Let's see a show of hands as to who would be interested in Öhlins suspension for either the KTM Adventure or the Super Enduro!

For years, BMW's have enjoyed the pleasure of Öhlins technology and unmatched quality. But where's the love for the orange bikes? Guess we're not ordering enough lattes...

As some of you may know, I've been running prototype Öhlins forks and shock on my SE990R for about 3 years now. In that time I've been pushing the boundaries of their suspension, and I've been nothing short of amazed with the new TTX Mk-II product.

Recently I've had several inquiries about making these items available for others to appreciate. Well, after spending some time at the Öhlins North American facility, it's become clear to me that if this is ever going to happen, we're going to have to make it happen ourselves.
  • I don't have pricing yet, but just assume it's crazy expensive.
  • Both ends would give you 277mm of travel.
  • The bike would remain close to early S height.
Have question? Let's hear 'em and I'll do my best to answer them for you...



Regards ~ Ken



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Old 05-06-2013, 07:03 PM   #2
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I would be in! Any thoughts of building a shock that would match the long travel front end we have on our bikes. My front legs are off of a 09 530. From the looks of things I would think it would require a new upper shock mount to get the full travel and not be way up in the air. I could CNC them and have them ready to weld on. One way or another I would be in. Suspension is the name of the game. I was heading this route until I got caught up in the EnduroCross thing. Look forward to getting back to developing the SE!
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:10 PM   #3
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I would be in! Any thoughts of building a shock that would match the long travel front end we have on our bikes. My front legs are off of a 09 530. From the looks of things I would think it would require a new upper shock mount to get the full travel and not be way up in the air. I could CNC them and have them ready to weld on. One way or another I would be in. Suspension is the name of the game. I was heading this route until I got caught up in the EnduroCross thing. Look forward to getting back to developing the SE!


Hey Tim! The front suspension is physically limited by the radiator placement. We're giving up about 20mm to the EXC models in order to save that precious cooler. Also the underside of the triple clamp comes into play...

The rear shock would match the front at 277mm of wheel travel. I run this now and it's just plain ol' amazing. Guess I might have to let some people ride my bike to see what I'm talking about...


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Old 07-08-2013, 11:50 AM   #4
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Hey Tim! The front suspension is physically limited by the radiator placement. We're giving up about 20mm to the EXC models in order to save that precious cooler. Also the underside of the triple clamp comes into play...

The rear shock would match the front at 277mm of wheel travel. I run this now and it's just plain ol' amazing. Guess I might have to let some people ride my bike to see what I'm talking about...


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Ken, where do I sign up for that ride?
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:09 PM   #5
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Ken, where do I sign up for that ride?

You might not have to. We're currently building 10 Adventure sets, and 10 SER sets for those that wish to jump on board.

The Adventure sets will include modified Öhlins TTx22 front cartridges with all the needed hardware,springs and a new brake line. It will also include all the needed parts to increase the rear suspension travel to 277mm, keeping the bike truly balanced. To accomplish this increase in travel without compromising the quality of suspension, the rear kit includes a new longer shock housing among it's parts.

The SER kit's include a similar front Öhlins TTx22 cartridge, as well as the matching Öhlins TTx44 rear shock that's been heavily modified to work with the Super Enduro.



Thank's all for now... back to the grind!











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Old 07-08-2013, 01:30 PM   #6
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I was more hoping to take your 990 superbeast for a spin. Lol
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:06 PM   #7
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Well Ken, I've got a 950 Supermoto. I just sold a Duc S4 with Ohlins. While the Duc was really well balanced , and worked very well, I can't fault the WPs on my KTM, in reality, they are plusher than my Duc. At least any difference isn't , to me, worth the couple thousand it would be to do up my KTM.
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:12 PM   #8
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Well Ken, I've got a 950 Supermoto. I just sold a Duc S4 with Ohlins. While the Duc was really well balanced , and worked very well, I can't fault the WPs on my KTM, in reality, they are plusher than my Duc. At least any difference isn't , to me, worth the couple thousand it would be to do up my KTM.
I can appreciate that, but this would be specifically directed towards the off-road enthusiast.



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Old 05-06-2013, 07:17 PM   #9
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WP suspension is already top notch! That's what I got on my GS.
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:20 PM   #10
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Yup WP is top shelf. Why would I switch to a similar level or inferior product?
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:52 PM   #11
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Yup WP is top shelf. Why would I switch to a similar level or inferior product?

As a guy that's worked with WP all the ways back to the White Power days, I can comfortably say that it's good suspension. Not great. Certainly not top shelf... and not even in the same ballpark as Öhlins. There's a reason why KTM doesn't even run their own product when they race.

But in line with these comments, in order to appreciate the Öhlins product you need to ride at a level that would justify the expense. I know there won't be many on here that can benefit from the upgrade, and that's why I've put out this "feeler" poll rather than go directly into production.


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Old 05-06-2013, 07:24 PM   #12
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Got it Ken! I did move the radiator in and running a 20" front wheel. I did forget my suspension guy limited my up travel a bit for the triples. I would love to give your bike a spin. I do believe its the best setup SE out there! I'm in for both.
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:48 PM   #13
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Any concept of what "crazy expensive" means? Even a ball park.

Would these be bolt on legs?
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Old 05-07-2013, 01:38 AM   #14
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I voted for the beer option as i estimate it will save me up to 3 beers every day for the next 4 years
But nevertheless, it sounds interesting. But if i consider my small research for factory suspensions on my husaberg and 250exc and the prices it was called for, i guess also an oehlins setup will cost as much as half the price of the new bike, or?
On the other side spending this amount will save my liver from digesting 4,000ltr of beer and you can never farkle the beast enough (no need to put the fancy oehlin stickers on)
So are there already any benefits in view, e.g. weight saving, longer travel or sth else?
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Old 05-07-2013, 04:05 AM   #15
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The standard rear shock on the SE is shocking... Wish the adventure S one fitted. I'm sure the price of the Ohlins will wind you on the spot....

Ive talked to a shock manufacturer who services suspension, he rates Ohlins.
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